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the_ignored
SFN Addict
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 Posted - 03/29/2009 : 22:00:38
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From PZ Myers blog. This is his source...
| ...they denied a 16-month-old boy food and water because he did not say "Amen" at mealtimes. After he died, they prayed over his body for days, expecting a resurrection, then packed it into a suitcase with mothballs. They left it in a shed in Philadelphia, where it remained for a year before detectives found it last spring. |
Guess what the kicker is?
| "She wasn't delusional, because she was following a religion," Silverman said, describing the findings of the doctors' psychiatric evaluation. |
Think of that for a minute...while it means this...person will likely get some serious jail time, it also means that even in an obvious case like this, such psychotic behavour is excused because of religion!
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
Edited by - the_ignored on 03/29/2009 22:04:05
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 03/29/2009 : 22:23:13 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by the_ignored
Guess what the kicker is?
| "She wasn't delusional, because she was following a religion," Silverman said, describing the findings of the doctors' psychiatric evaluation. |
Think of that for a minute...while it means this...person will likely get some serious jail time, it also means that even in an obvious case like this, such psychotic behavour is excused because of religion! |
No, no, no, her behavior wasn't excused because she wasn't ruled delusional. She was ruled sane and fit to stand trial. Or do you mean to say that her behavior shouldn't be excused from being considered psychotic, that she should clearly be ruled insane?
I don't think that would be a good idea because then all religion would have to be classified as a mental illness, and as much as I would love to see that, it just isn't going to happen. But the shrink did the next best thing imo, and basically said "Look, you religious people don't get to have it both ways. If you want to claim that religious belief doesn't qualify as a delusion, fine, but then you can't turn around later and say you weren't responsible for your actions because you were following a nutty religion."
In fact he noted the difficulty distinguishing between her alleged "insanity" and any other typical godbot's belief system:| Psychiatrists who evaluated Ramkissoon at the request of a judge concluded that she was not criminally insane. Her attorney, Steven Silverman, said the doctors found that her beliefs were indistinguishable from religious beliefs, in part because they were shared by those around her. (bolding mine) |
So I applaud this decision. If talking to invisible men and believing in the reality of miracles is insanity, then more than half of the country could be considered legally insane. It would be almost impossible to find anyone fit to stand trial.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
| Edited by - H. Humbert on 03/29/2009 22:25:58 |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 03/29/2009 : 23:38:08 [Permalink]
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Yeah, I disagree with PZ on this. Religion, in effect, has been ruled as no excuse for criminal behavior. If you follow a religion into committing such heartrendingly cruel crimes as this, you will be held personally responsible.
This should make a very interesting debate, as it's possible to think of it from either side.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
| Edited by - HalfMooner on 03/29/2009 23:47:19 |
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Religous killing ruled NOT delusional??
