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Simon
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USA
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Posted - 04/24/2009 : 16:42:52 [Permalink]
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| Indeed... Pears and Apples are closely related; which was point of the analogy... :p |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996 |
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Machi4velli
SFN Regular
USA
854 Posts |
 Posted - 04/24/2009 : 17:04:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
They fear, you see, having some of their nastier preachers serving a little deserved jail time for inflammatory sermons. I think that's unlikely to happen, but, with the law explicitly covering more diverse groups, it could. |
Do they not have a valid point in that sense? Why should it be illegal for pastors to say inflammatory things? I struggle to see why "hate speech" should have any different rules than ordinary speech. That said, I believe it is already illegal for a pastor (or others) to instruct his/her followers to kill someone. Why should there be a legal difference from someone saying "go kill the next homosexual you find" or "go kill the next left-handed person you find"?
Who is claiming there is a right to kill anyone? The author does not link us to any such claim. The link he gives to his other article does not either, it only shows a complaint that hate crime laws may make it possible for a church official to be incriminated if someone at his/her church commits a crime against a homosexual after hearing a sermon against homosexuality (one that preaches that homosexuality is immoral but does not advocate crimes against homosexuals). |
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking
"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
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| Edited by - Machi4velli on 04/24/2009 17:18:55 |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 04/24/2009 : 18:16:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Simon
Indeed... Pears and Apples are closely related; which was point of the analogy... :p
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That's what I figured.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 04/25/2009 : 07:34:27 [Permalink]
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Two words: Fred Phelps.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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The right to kill…
