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the_ignored
SFN Addict
2562 Posts |
 Posted - 04/24/2009 : 08:12:31
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Found on Ed Brayton's blog.
You know, Scienceblogs is a lot more useful than I originally thought it would be...
The lie: | You have Obama nominating Judge Hamilton, who said in her ruling that saying the words Jesus Christ in a prayer is a sign of inappropriate behavior, but saying Allah would be okay. |
The truth: The Speaker has also suggested that such an explicit caution about Christian references "would be the first known religious viewpoint discrimination in connection with the Indiana House invocation." The criticism is misguided. The decisive point of constitutional law is that a practice of sectarian prayer favouring any particular religion violates the establishment clause. From the evidence here, it is clear that the letters asking invited clerics to "strive for an ecumenical prayer" have not been sufficient to prevent many Christian speakers from using the prayer opportunity to advance and even to proselytise Christianity. The same strictures will apply to sectarian Jewish or Muslim prayers, for example. This record, however, shows no efforts by Jewish or Muslim clerics to use the prayer opportunity to advance their particular religions. At this juncture, there is no need to be more specific in the injunction as to what would amount to a sectarian prayer in those traditions.
He says the exact opposite of what they claim he said. He says clearly that the same standard would apply to a Jewish or Muslim prayer. |
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 04/24/2009 : 17:08:30 [Permalink]
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Nice catch. When the facts are useless for one's cause, make up your own facts. This particular kind of lie is expressly forbidden by the Ninth Commandment. Of course, Newt Gingrich isn't personally observant of the Commandments, except sometimes by accident.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Zebra
Skeptic Friend
USA
354 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2009 : 08:44:27 [Permalink]
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| yeah, but see the original comment was an entire paragraph - so hard to read - so they figure, let's just come up with a one-liner that supports our side & includes some of the same words. Unfortunately that too often seems to be the case. Glad someone's staying on top of this stuff. |
I think, you know, freedom means freedom for everyone* -Dick Cheney
*some restrictions may apply |
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Mycroft
Skeptic Friend
USA
427 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2009 : 09:35:04 [Permalink]
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| It's too bad this kind of expose can be found in blogs but not so much in the news. If our news media were more willing to fact-check statements like that then maybe our politicians would be less willing to make such blatantly false statements. |
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Right Wing Lie Caught
