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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 05/18/2009 : 12:28:16
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By PZ, as might be expected. And deserved it is, in this remarkably ignorant article by a creationist named Peter Heck. It starts out very, very badly.
It never ceases to amaze me how intellectually condescending evolutionary naturalists can be. Keep in mind, these are folks who believe that an indescribably tiny wad of nothingness exploded into a fully functional, structured, and ordered universe of orbiting planets and complex creatures without any supernatural agency involved. They are the ones who cling to a theory known as spontaneous generation - the notion that dead matter can just suddenly pop to life. They are the ones who champion a man (Charles Darwin) who suggested that Africans were more closely related to gorillas than Caucasians. They are the ones who believe that a wolf-like animal with hooves took to the water, lost its legs, and morphed into a whale (Cetaceans). If anyone should go easy on the intellectual condescension, it's these people. But they don't.
Wow. Let's begin at the top.
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It never ceases to amaze me that these willfully ignorant dolts speak out of their ass' this much and yet don't seem to get labial 'roids under their moustaches. Hell, I dunno; maybe they do.
For some perverse reason, it reminds me of a legendary raccoon trap -- as a kid, I tried this: you take a hard boiled egg, put it in a milk bottle and tether the bottle to a tree. The raccoon tries to get the egg out with it's paw and can't due to the bottle's neck. Then, in the morning, one merely comes along and chunks the 'coon over the head, or shoots it. You see, the animal is too greedy to let the egg go.
Was I successful? No. I set out three bottles and in two I found only a couple of bugs and some scant, shredded egg remains in the third.
I have read that variations on this make a very effective monkey trap as well. Seems that it might.....
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Edited by - filthy on 05/18/2009 12:42:51
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 05/18/2009 : 13:52:16 [Permalink]
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Well; these Evolutionists certainly are morons.
Good thing then they do not actually exist outside of the fevered imagination of a few creationists and have especially nothing to do with the actual Evolutionary scientists...
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Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 05/18/2009 : 20:48:18 [Permalink]
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Nobody can cut bullshit to the quick better than PZ. Nobody.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
 Posted - 05/19/2009 : 07:07:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Nobody can cut bullshit to the quick better than PZ. Nobody.
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But he gets email! Lots and lots of email, some of even worse than what occasionally shows up in my box -- how well I remember the Great Catholic Cracker Confabulation!
Yesterday, I tore into a reeking pile of creationist bogosity by Peter Heck. This morning, he sends me email.
Dr. Myers,
Someone sent me a nasty email that included a link to your blog. I found it a pretty thorough shallacking! Not that I'm opposed to that. If I put arguments out in front of people, I have no problem when they're hacked up by the experts. I actually sent the column to three biologists I know and trust before it was published. They don't agree with my views on some of these issues, but I knew they would challenge my science. They all recommended I take out the first paragraph or make it less condescending. But then folks like you might not have read it! But what each of them said in response to the article was that my conclusion was not scientifically flawed: that Britt's suggestion that swine flu proved the Darwinian model of macro-evolution was incorrect. I'd be interested to know if you disagree. Thanks for your time and for taking an interest in my article,
Peter
This is a rather disingenuous reply; he wasn't just shellacked, he was exposed as a dishonest fraud who knew nothing at all about the subject he was critiquing. I didn't just criticize a few niggling errors in his article, I ripped it apart from stem to stern and pointed out that he was ignorant and unscholarly…and now he comes back and offers the feeble excuse that he had three biologists look it over? Who were these biologists, and why didn't they point out that the article was nothing but a crudely hacked together raft of creationist fallacies?
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I too, would like the identities of said biologists Could one of them be Jonathan Wells, perchance? Assuming that they exist at all, of course....
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Condescending creationist drivel condescended
