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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 07/07/2009 :  06:06:34  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8137000/8137922.stm

Cool article, very handy escape mechanism for those in tiger territory.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini

HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 07/07/2009 :  06:40:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I loved this bit from the article:
There are around 10 species of mouse-deer, which are also called 'chevrotains'.

All belong to the ancient ruminant family Tragulidae, which split some 50 years ago from other ruminants, the group that went on to evolve into cattle, goats, sheep, deer and antelope.

[My emphasis.]
And the Creos claim that macro-evolution has never been observed! Hell, I was a teenager when that happened.




Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 07/07/2009 06:46:13
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 07/07/2009 :  07:02:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hell that means you must have evolved into a giant ground sloth by now...

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 07/07/2009 :  07:08:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

Hell that means you must have evolved into a giant ground sloth by now...
I've been compared.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Simon
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Posted - 07/07/2009 :  07:52:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting. It does support what we know of the Evolution history of the whale quite nicely.

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996
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Baxter
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Posted - 07/07/2009 :  08:06:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Baxter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

And the Creos claim that macro-evolution has never been observed! Hell, I was a teenager when that happened.
I think the claim would be that this is change within the "kind," and that no new information is gained.


"We tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients. But we can't scoff at them personally, to their faces, and this is what annoys me." ~from Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey

"We can be as honest as we are ignorant. If we are, when asked what is beyond the horizon of the known, we must say that we do not know." ~Robert G. Ingersoll
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 07/07/2009 :  08:20:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Baxter

Originally posted by HalfMooner

And the Creos claim that macro-evolution has never been observed! Hell, I was a teenager when that happened.
I think the claim would be that this is change within the "kind," and that no new information is gained.


Right you are. They're all just "rumninant kind," same difference. "Kind" is so nice and flexible, today a species, tomorrow an order, whatever a Creationist needs...


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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