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the_ignored
SFN Addict
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 Posted - 07/10/2009 : 09:08:27
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Why soundbite "interviews" are little to no good...they have Joe Nickell, Bob Larson, and a preacher. Nothing like balanced reporting...two on one.
They should have left the preacher out at least, so the other two could have had more time to hash things out...you'll notice that Joe had very little time to get his side across, his experience with other "exorcists", etc, while Larson was able to spew stuff without any time for a real cross-examination.
He did make a potential mistake though...he invited Nickell to one of his "exorcisms". Maybe Joe'll take him up on that.
It maybe would have helped, provided that Joe would have had the time to bring this stuff up, but other people have been keeping track of Bob.
Bob doesn't seem to care too much for the facts:
| One time, he declared that the founders of the nation, like Thomas Jefferson, intended the nation to be Christian. A caller had a book of quotations and documents prepared for Bob, and began to quote a few choice commentaries from Jefferson's memoirs where he explained that the intent of the First Amendment was to prevent one religious persuasion to control the government. The Caller really laid it out, and Bob simply cut him off and commented "That doesn't prove anything...you can read all the quotes from all the anti-Christian authors you want...", completely ignoring the fact that it was a quote from Thomas Jefferson himself, one of the authors and signers of the Constitution! |
It seems that Bob is not very honest.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
 Posted - 07/10/2009 : 15:41:47 [Permalink]
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Verbal debates against people who can just spew forth verbiage are a waste of time. You have a hard time convincing an audience that the person is full of shit, and you can never answer each point they vomit up.
Written debate > all other formats, imo.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
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The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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knightmare
New Member
USA
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Posted - 07/10/2009 : 15:54:25 [Permalink]
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| Debates are about winning over the audience, not about presenting facts. That's why people like Stephen Jay Gould never accepted invites to debate creationists. No matter how many facts you have on your side, it's still possible to lose and then the public thinks the other side is right. |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
4826 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2009 : 19:43:48 [Permalink]
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To be fair, ig. Joe was debating two preachers.
Bob Larson Ministries is the stuff my brother is involved in.
He does exorcisms.
Stop laughing. I'm serious.
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Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2009 : 03:21:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
To be fair, ig. Joe was debating two preachers.
Bob Larson Ministries is the stuff my brother is involved in.
He does exorcisms.
Stop laughing. I'm serious.
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Who's laughing; exorcisms are serious shit that get people killed or mentally maimed. The practice should be outlawed and it's practitioners locked up and charged with assault. Sorry about your brother, Val; I find that very sad, but that's the way it is.
Have no fear, those Bible-humpers will never debate anyone in a written event. They know that Joe Nickle, an inspiration of mine incidentally, would ream them out like diamond bit boring through a layer of sedimentary, dessicated faeces. Hell, they rarely show the balls to even come in here.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Skeptic vs. Exorcist...
