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Dave W.
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 Posted - 07/23/2009 : 21:04:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
Yeah. Good points. It was a massive ad hominem that really says nothing about global warming and a lot about Penn. Oh well.
Perhaps I'm softer on him because he replied the way I wanted him to reply when I asked him if libertarianism should be the default politic for skeptics. I dunno.
Shermer is driving me crazy. |
The big difference between P&T and Shermer, regardless of your politics or your understanding of AGW or SHS, is that P&T also have a really entertaining magic act.
In other words:Shermer: Skepticism and Libertarianism.
P&T: Skepticism, Libertarianism and really cool tricks. I'm only half joking. I haven't seen the Bullshit! episode on AGW (stopped getting Showtime ages ago), but I understand that it was lacking in interviews with scientists, instead interviewing Cato Institute hacks and the like. I did see the SHS episode, which featured Steven Milloy of the Cato Institute so much that he's the only guy I remember from it. Cato is Libertarian, through and through, so without overtly proselytizing Libertarianism, those episodes were promoting Libertarian positions nonetheless (and calling "bullshit" on opposing views).
In other words, I have little doubt that there exist at least a few people who saw those P&T episodes, learned the lessons being offered, and only stumbled across Libertarianism later on and said, "these people think just like I do about these issues, so I'm joining up!" They may still have little idea of what the Cato Institute is, but they've been converted, anyway, by P&T. |
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