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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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 Posted - 07/18/2009 : 19:45:42
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NASA: LRO Sees Apollo Landing Sites
I was posting this to the summary, and then thought, why? This is cool right now!
The moon hoax people will have to explain these pictures away. They will almost certainly try. And they will still believe their own bullshit.
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
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knightmare
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 Posted - 07/18/2009 : 20:38:45 [Permalink]
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The other day, I saw on the news that 6% of Americans believe that the moon landing was faked. I texted a friend of mine because I thought he might find it interesting. He texted me back and informed me that he was one of the 6%! He said the perspectives in the photos and video was all wrong, 1/6 gravity would have been too light for the extravehicular maneuvers they performed, and that while the technology is far enough along now or maybe even back when the shuttle was first launched, to accomplish a moon landing, back in 1969 it was completely inadequate.
I'm sure there's arguments against his claims, but I'm not sure where to start looking. Neither one of us is an astrophysicist, so I was hoping to find something a little more "down to earth" (pun intended). Any suggestions?
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 07/18/2009 : 20:58:24 [Permalink]
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| Go to this Bad Astronomy page for a wealth of links that debunk the hoax notion. |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
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Maverick
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 07/18/2009 : 21:13:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by knightmare
The other day, I saw on the news that 6% of Americans believe that the moon landing was faked. |
Only 6%? I thought it would be more, but then again that would be ridiculous.
| He said the perspectives in the photos and video was all wrong, |
Perhaps it's the argument about the shadows being all wrong? Well, they appear in some photos to go in different directions, and that is evidence, according to the hoaxers, that they shot the whole thing in a studio. In reality though, the shadows look that way because of the uneven Lunar landscape.
| 1/6 gravity would have been too light for the extravehicular maneuvers they performed, |
I don't understand why. With the heavy spacesuits they had enough weight not to bounce around uncontrollably.
| and that while the technology is far enough along now or maybe even back when the shuttle was first launched, to accomplish a moon landing, back in 1969 it was completely inadequate. |
It was really close, indeed. There weren't many testflights for each new system, for example they flew the LM only twice; once in Earth orbit and once to "almost land" on the Moon. But the the technology was ready, barely, and they did land. An extraordinary accomplishment that we should celebrate.
There is a couple of mountains of evidence that it all took place, and zero that it was a hoax.
Here is a good link: http://www.clavius.org/ |
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pleco
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Posted - 07/19/2009 : 06:18:11 [Permalink]
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filthy
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Posted - 07/19/2009 : 07:45:54 [Permalink]
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Just 6%? I read somewhere it was 14%, which sounds more likely to me. I'll try and find the article.
Edit: Like all polls & surveys, you've gotta take it with a bucket of salt. Got this from Wikipedia -- evidently the 6% figure came from a 1999 survey. That number increased in 2001, after Fox dumped off a load of tripe concerning it, and the claim became 20%.
The percentages of doubters are higher overseas.
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Simon
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Posted - 07/19/2009 : 10:18:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Maverick
| He said the perspectives in the photos and video was all wrong, |
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One of the thing I think to recall on this particular one is that because of the moon's absence of atmosphere, light is not blurred or distorted as it does on earth.
So, objects appear clearer than they would be on earth and it tricks the brain that evolved to take that into account. Hence, distant objects 'feel' nearer than they actually are (the same phenomenon apparently also happen at high altitude like in the Himalayas).
So; the brain reads the pictures and sees many diverging shadows on closely located objects. While, in fact, the objects can be quite distant, and hence the slopes on the ground and such would be more than it feels. |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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LRO sees Apollo Landing Sites
