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|  Posted - 08/10/2009 :  02:57:23       
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           	| Yep.  You heard that right. 
 This has got to be the damndest thing I've heard from those characters.
 
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| >From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
 (excerpt follows):
 > I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
 > Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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 > **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
 > incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
 > much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
 > know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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 > Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
 > Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
 > illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
 > the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
 > and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
 > still disappear if I was you.
 
 What brought that on? this.  Original posting here.
 
 Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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| Posted - 08/10/2009 :  04:20:44   [Permalink]       
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| It seems this may be a case of Poe.  Again, I've been hoisted upon my own petard. 
 
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| Posted - 08/14/2009 :  11:09:44   [Permalink]       
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| I'm a little bit unclear about what they are teaching at this school.  Is this a school to learn to become a preacher?  Also, if they are rejecting scientific principles, how is a degree from this (or similar) schools worth anything? |  
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| Posted - 08/14/2009 :  12:32:33   [Permalink]       
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| No. It's a Christian university. Officially, it is supposed to offer secular degrees to compete with that from real institutes, just without the evilution endoctrination and gay sex abortionism.
 I guess it might work, provided the guy hiring does not check the degrees too closely or does not care. I for one would be really suspicious in hiring somebody from such a place.
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| Posted - 08/14/2009 :  12:39:27   [Permalink]       
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| Ah so this is how "Doctor" Kent Hovid earned his PhD! I am actually surprised that a degree from such a place is even allowed since there is always the possibility that some quack will use their "degree" to get a job where they might cause someone's death.  "Pray away the Cancer!" |  
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|  Posted - 08/14/2009 :  14:38:54   [Permalink]       
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| Oh no, Hovind was much worse. His "Doctorate" is from Patriot University which, at the time, was in a split-level residence in, I believe, Colorado. Today, it is called Patriot Bible University, but it is still a diploma mill.| Originally posted by Fani 
 Ah so this is how "Doctor" Kent Hovid earned his PhD! I am actually surprised that a degree from such a place is even allowed since there is always the possibility that some quack will use their "degree" to get a job where they might cause someone's death.  "Pray away the Cancer!"
 
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|  Posted - 08/14/2009 :  14:42:43   [Permalink]             
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| | Originally posted by filthy 
 
 Oh no, Hovind was much worse. His "Doctorate" is from Patriot University which, at the time, was in a split-level residence in, I believe, Colorado. Today, it is called Patriot Bible University, but it is still a diploma mill.| Originally posted by Fani 
 Ah so this is how "Doctor" Kent Hovid earned his PhD! I am actually surprised that a degree from such a place is even allowed since there is always the possibility that some quack will use their "degree" to get a job where they might cause someone's death.  "Pray away the Cancer!"
 
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 And then there is this:
 
 The Dissertation Kent Hovind Doesn't Want You to Read
 
 
 
 
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|  Posted - 08/14/2009 :  15:08:26   [Permalink]       
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| | Originally posted by filthy 
 
 Oh no, Hovind was much worse. His "Doctorate" is from Patriot University which, at the time, was in a split-level residence in, I believe, Colorado. Today, it is called Patriot Bible University, but it is still a diploma mill.| Originally posted by Fani 
 Ah so this is how "Doctor" Kent Hovid earned his PhD! I am actually surprised that a degree from such a place is even allowed since there is always the possibility that some quack will use their "degree" to get a job where they might cause someone's death.  "Pray away the Cancer!"
 
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 Indeed, the 'Christian college' actually make an attempt at educating their students.
 Howind never even had the benefit of such classes, sub-par, biased, or not...
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| Posted - 08/14/2009 :  17:48:10   [Permalink]       
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| By the way, I was wrong when I decided the Dembski site with student assignments was Poe.  The domain there is registered to Dembski.  Bill's actually now sounding like a very clever parody of Bill Dembski going off the deep end. 
 
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| Posted - 08/14/2009 :  20:05:49   [Permalink]       
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| Indeed, I have seen it referenced in many places with nobody coming up with an official denunciation from Dembski, which is pretty telling IMO. |  
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| Posted - 08/14/2009 :  20:18:27   [Permalink]         
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| As has been pointed out elsewhere, Dembski teaches at the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention, which itself was formed to defend slavery using the Bible. 
 Just more ammo for when those "Darwin was a racist" claims show up.
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| Posted - 08/14/2009 :  22:29:10   [Permalink]       
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| BTW, here's the "Whois" data for Dembski's site, designinference.com: | WHOIS Results for designinference.com 
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