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River Otter
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Posted - 10/25/2009 :  17:38:45  Show Profile Send River Otter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Has anyone head about this?

http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2009/10/column-just-say-no-to-blasphemy-laws-.html

While attracting surprisingly little attention, the Obama administration supported the effort of largely Muslim nations in the U.N. Human Rights Council to recognize exceptions to free speech for any "negative racial and religious stereotyping."


I don't like this, not one bit.

I not sure if you are all familiar with Pat Condell. He's been calling Islam out on You Tube for it's blasphemy laws in Europe. Here's his take on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjSjpNe1-Vc

Do you all know anything about this? What do you think?

I am not ashamed to confess that I am ignorant of what I do not know. -Cicero

Brother, You say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agree, as you can all read the book. -Sagoyewatha,(Red Jacket) - Chief and great orator of the six nations.

filthy
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Posted - 10/26/2009 :  01:29:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's the first I've heard of it, so I googled around a bit. PZ has some thoughts on the matter.
No more blasphemy laws, please
Category: Politics
Posted on: October 22, 2009 10:02 AM, by PZ Myers

It's very nice of Obama to have occasionally acknowledged the existence of freethinkers in his speeches, but it doesn't mean much when his administration endorses blasphemy laws.

The public and private curtailment on religious criticism threatens religious and secular speakers alike. However, the fear is that, when speech becomes sacrilegious, only the religious will have true free speech. It is a danger that has become all the more real after the decision of the Obama administration to join in the effort to craft a new faith-based speech standard. It is now up to Congress and the public to be heard before the world leaves free speech with little more than a hope and a prayer.

Free speech doesn't mean you only have the right to say things that the majority agrees upon — it is also the right of a minority to offend the majority. I don't know why that is so hard to get across to some people.
As daveau said in the comments: "I keep waiting for that guy I voted for to show up."

Yeah, me too.....




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filthy
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Posted - 10/26/2009 :  02:58:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Deleted for repetitious link & quotes. Senility approaches ever closer, but I must ask: Whatever happened to..... "I will defend to the death your right to say it?"

I might punch your face or hire a lawyer after you've said it, but that's on a personal level. I'd never deny you the right.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

Edited by - filthy on 10/26/2009 03:52:57
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filthy
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Posted - 10/26/2009 :  04:31:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Agreein' with Otter, this is disturbing even though a UN vote on anything doesn't mean very much. Here is a comment from a post on this blog:
Ross said...
That's a terrible decision. This came up at the UN back in January 2008 and at the time the countries who voted to support it were:

" Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Bolivia, Brunei Darussalam, Burkina Faso, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, China, Comoros, Congo, Costa Rica, Côte d’Ivoire, Cuba, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Djibouti, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Egypt, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Fiji, Gabon, Gambia, Grenada, Guinea, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lao People’s Democratic Republic, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Mauritania, Mauritius, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nicaragua, Niger, Oman, Pakistan, Philippines, Qatar, Russian Federation, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Somalia, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Syria, Tajikistan, Thailand, Timor-Leste, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe."

Those voting against:

" Andorra, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Marshall Islands, Micronesia (Federated States of), Moldova, Monaco, Montenegro, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Palau, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Korea, Romania, Samoa, San Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States."

In other words with one or two exceptions the resolution was almost a perfect dividing line between the pluralistic democratic world and the repressive world.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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