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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 11/04/2009 :  05:48:28  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Can these things be banned please?

I know that the average person in this country is apathetic at best about any election. Honest, I get it. But these special elections are not really useful, are they?

Is NY's 23rd congressional district really going to malfunction if it goes a year without a representative? Do the majority of people in Maine really want to repeal their gay marriage law or is it just the super vocal and well organized religious minority out voting in these special elecations?

Can we, at the least, not have ballot measures on these stupid special election ballots? How do people get to the point where they don't care if a fraction of the registered voters (who are already a fraction of the population) are making decisions for everyone?


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth

Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13477 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2009 :  09:22:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

Can these things be banned please?

I know that the average person in this country is apathetic at best about any election. Honest, I get it. But these special elections are not really useful, are they?

Is NY's 23rd congressional district really going to malfunction if it goes a year without a representative? Do the majority of people in Maine really want to repeal their gay marriage law or is it just the super vocal and well organized religious minority out voting in these special elecations?

Can we, at the least, not have ballot measures on these stupid special election ballots? How do people get to the point where they don't care if a fraction of the registered voters (who are already a fraction of the population) are making decisions for everyone?



Hell, I would do away with ballet measures all together if I had my way. But at least save them for a general election. You are exactly right.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2009 :  11:56:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Shit we learned from last night:
11/04/2009
Shit What We Learned From Last Night:

Forget what the assholes on TV are saying about the various elections and initiatives from last night. Who gives a shit what Michael Steele is crowing about? (Transcendent? Really?) Here's all ye know and all ye need to know about yesterday:

1. In a nation of fat fucks, don't make fun of the morbidly obese candidate for being a fat fuck.
It didn't help that Democratic New Jersey Governor Jon Corzine was such a smug asshole about Republican Chris Christie's Farley-esque physique. But it also got in the way of a message that Christie was a corrupt Bush acolyte who had suckled at Karl Rove's teat. And even if New Jersey has the 10th lowest obesity rate in the nation, over half the state is overweight or obese, according to CDC numbers. So who, exactly, was Corzine appealing to in the ad that said that Christie "threw his weight around"? Hey, Jonny Fitness, shut the fuck up, pass the gravy, and tell us about your plans on turnpike tolls.

Besides, look at Christie. That lardy fucker ain't surviving a term without a massive coronary.

2. Voters hate it when rich pukes act like rich pukes.
As mentioned above, Corzine was kind of a prick who spent a ton of his own cash on the campaign, cash that he made while at Goldman "Has America By Its" Sachs. Mike Bloomberg may have won the New York City mayoral race, but the voters made that billionaire sweat Benjamins. Expected to win by more than ten points, Bloomberg got just 51% of the vote, spending $100 million of his money, a figure politely known as "fuckloads." New Yorkers came very close to telling Bloomberg to shove his anti-democratic third term and his filthy lucre up his ass.

And so forth.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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Paulos23
Skeptic Friend

USA
446 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2009 :  15:47:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Paulos23's Homepage Send Paulos23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well there is at least some silver lining over on the west coast. it looks like Washington State's "Everything but marriage" law may pass (we will see in an hour). And one of the ex-board members from the Discovery Institute was denied my counties head seat.

Small victories, but sometimes you have to take them as they come.

You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting. -- Robert A. Heinlein

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
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Paulos23
Skeptic Friend

USA
446 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2009 :  16:36:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Paulos23's Homepage Send Paulos23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You can track the Washington State Referendum 71 here:

http://vote.wa.gov/Elections/WEI/

So far it is looking good.

You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting. -- Robert A. Heinlein

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
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