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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 12/11/2009 :  05:26:50  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why anyone assigns any credence at all to FOX, the WSJ or the Washington Times (which, I'm happy to add, is going under) or any of the other conservative rabies vectors is beyond me.

"Evading the challenges of climate change—and the human responsibility to save the planet—is simple enough even for the laziest citizen. Pay attention only to the theories that support the comforting skepticism of the oil industry. Focus on a set of purloined emails that prove nothing except that scientists can be as unpleasant to each other as any other group of people. Get the “facts” from Fox News Channel, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, the Moonie-controlled Washington Times and all the other conservative outlets that are as fair and balanced as an Exxon press release.

And be sure to ignore the mounting evidence, most notably the actual temperature studies released by the United Nations this week, that proves beyond a doubt that the earth is warming as car-bon-based industrialization spreads across the developing nations.

It is hardly surprising that Fox News would emphasize the use of terms like “trick” in a stolen message from the University of East Anglia without mentioning that the word has an innocent mean-ing when used by scientists. It is even less surprising that in their zeal to exploit those emails and influence public opinion, the Fox News crew would concoct their own stupid deception.

As the email controversy unfolded, pollsters at Rasmussen Reports asked respondents the following question: “In order to support their own theories and beliefs about global warming, how likely is it that some scientists have falsified research data?” According to their survey, 35 percent believed that it was “very likely,” 24 percent thought it was “somewhat likely,” 21 percent thought it was “not very likely,” 5 percent thought it was “not likely at all” and 15 percent were unsure. But those results weren’t damning enough for Fox, which displayed a full-screen graphic on the poll claiming that 59 percent considered scientific deception to be “somewhat likely” and 35 percent considered it to be “very likely,” with only 26 percent feeling it was not very likely. Add up those numbers and the total comes to 120 percent (with the uncertain 15 percent discarded)."


Pretty pathetic and a sad commentary on state of American comprehension, which seems to get more head-up-the-ass with each passing day.

The article continues, pointing up some of Sen. Inhofe's scumbag behavior, which is not out of the ordinary for that skeevy embarrassment to Oklahoma. All in all, it's a good if disgusting read.

On a related and dumber matter: Bill O'Reilly's lie of the month, which doesn't deserve it's own thread. BO seldom does.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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The Rat
SFN Regular

Canada
1370 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2009 :  07:59:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote

O'Lielly wouldn't recognize a fact if it bit his dick off.


Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.

You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church? - The Bishop of Bath and Wells, Blackadder II

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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2009 :  09:03:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by The Rat


O'Lielly wouldn't recognize a fact if it bit his dick off.


Indeed, but one might question his possession of that organ.
His behavior sort of points up to an emotional insecurity that might have been brought on by the lack or a deformation of his dick. I wonder; did he have the childhood nickname of "Stubby?" Or possibly "Weird Wang Willy?"




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard

USA
4574 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2009 :  09:47:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In the latest Quentin Tarantino movie Inglourious Basterds there is a scene where Brad Pitt asks a captured Nazi soldier what he'd do if he was allowed to leave. "Will you take off your uniform?" Pitt asks. "Yes, certainly," the Nazi replies. "I'd go back to my family farm, take off my uniform and never put it on again."

That, explains Pitt, is unacceptable. A Nazi should not be able to hide his past, to blend back into the general populace and forget what he had done. So Pitt tells the man "I'm gonna give you a little somethin' you can't take off," and he carves a swastika into the Nazi's forehead.



I wish I could carve a big W in the forehead of every global warming denier so that 30 years from now everyone alive will know who it was that fucked the rest of us over.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2009 :  13:16:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That would be something, wouldn't it?

Ahh... Wishful thinking.
But Inglorious Basterds was an awesome movie. Definitely goes into my DVD-collection.

Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3

"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse

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Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2009 :  14:24:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The success of FOXnoise is easily explained by the attempts at writing by it's faithful viewers. You just can't make this sort of asininity up!
Those "conservative" Fox "News" fans sure do use a lot of F-words in their death threats.

We're used to various death threats by now, of course, even from Drudge's poodle, Andy "Big Government" Breitbart, but those socially "conservative", American "values"-lovin', Fox "News" viewers have really outdone themselves this time.

On Monday night, FoxNews.com featured a story on the latest announcement from VR'ss StopTheChamber.com campaign, concerning the offer of a $200,000 reward for insider information leading to the arrest and conviction of Tom Donohue, the CEO of the right-wing corporatist lobbying group, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. [Disclosure: The BRAD BLOG is a co-founder of VelvetRevolution.us]

And the e-mails in question, you ask? Well, ok, but be sitting down for this, and put your beverage aside for the moment....

Out of an abundance of generosity, we're not posting the emailers names here (each bullet-point quote below comes from a different note) but the ones which include threats of violence have been given to the FBI [PDF] in D.C., along with a request for an investigation to find out if the Chamber itself might be behind the hit campaign.

As many of these are not safe for work, we'll post them below the fold...



* * *

•"Leave the US Chamber of Commerce alone. This is the only warning you will receive."

•"You WILL be confronted and stopped ... I am quite probably a member of the fasting [sic] growing group that is your direct enemy..."

•"Your [sic] all on borrowed time. The real revolution will come to those soon"

•"You peices [sic] of shit should all be fucking burned at the stake"

•"I dont make threats. Only promises. You better back the hell off"

•"interesting site but this will be no velvet revolution people.

Quite the contraire [sic] as you give the moniker a bad name. ... Now, if you want a revolution which it sounds as though you do, it most certainly wont be velvet."

•"Be careful what you ask for..."

•"Keep this $200,000 'tip' business going for the CEO of the Chamber and you will find yourself as the target.... You will only receive a limited number of warning --- this may be the only one --- before your punishment is delivered."

•"Bounty on your head. Beware"

•"All I can say is 'Go Fuck your Mother'....What a pathetic left wing org this is......run by...wait for it.......Mother Fuckers......."

•"FUCK YOU COMMUNIST MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!! GET READY. CIVIL WAR II IS COMING, AND IT WILL BE THE RIGHT VS. THE LEFT THIS TIME. THE RIGHT WILL WIN. FUCK YOU ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!!"

•"your low life president Barry Boy along with Reid and Pelosi should all be arrested and tried for treason."

•"Please let the world know who is behind this bounty offer so that they can be 'recognized' for their decision."

•"I will inform friends and family of your thoughts and movements"

•"Your group is a fascist front group. Why don't you and your band of traitors come to Texas and hold a big protest. We will 'welcome' you here."

•"Try yourselves for treason againsst [sic] the U.S. and then we can hang you for your crimes against this country."

•"Here is a tip --- eat shit you fucking liberal pussy faggots. if you nigger loving hippies ever succeed in anything to ruin this country, you will find me banging down your door to take it back. i cannot believe how far this country has fallen when fucks like you are allowed to roam free - go back to your ghettos and hide behind the food stamp, hand out line with all your other crack whore mothers"

•"If you haven't already figured this out, you work for a very corrupt organization that is sponsored by the anti-Christ--even Satan himself."

•(Subject: "Ingorance?" [sic]): "What is wrong with you slimy idiots? Just because someone or some group has more brains that [sic] your half white, half black, half assed, 100% bull shit leader you have to try and slander them? Must be part of the ACORN (A Conglomeration Of Racial Nuts (or whatever starts with N)."

•"your boys numbers are plummeting ... your boy goes even more lame than he will be after he doesn't get healthcare, and gets destroyed in 2012."

•"I am joining the Chamber just because of asshats like y'all and that Big-Eared Boy from Chicago. ... A Proud Texan"

•"bend over and spread em and I'll give you more than the tip"

•"I think he gave your mama a big tip up her ass, and the piece of shit that fell out was you!

•"FUCKING LOSERS!"

•"Douche Canoes! YOU SUCK! You liberal fucken [sic] asswipes."

•FUCK YOU DOUCHE BAGS

•"2 cents for the arrest and indictment of NAZI traitors who belong to this Leftard Fascist ANTI-AMERICAN bunch of pissant girlieboys. How's Hitler...you should know. You and your Islamic Nazi allies."

•"Where is your next get together in Miami, Fl...I'd like to go down to the rally and kick all your ass' for being a bunch of piece of crap communist !!! Let me know... You bunch of pigs"

•"Fuck off and die you leftist pricks. America is not a socialist country and never will be if I have to kick every one of your body odor smelling asses out of my country. So again FUCK OFF!!!!"

•"Any truth to the rumors that Obama likes men? Or, that he's a closet Muslim?"

•"Send Velvet Revolution NAZIs to Gitmo they should endure a dose of the so-called 'torture' they're crying like the queer girlieboys that they really are. ... The more torture of Islamohitlerite babykilling Fascist pigs, the better. You should be with them."

•May the islamic terrorists if they strike the U.S. again, aim at the White House West Wing and residence, the Congressional Office Buildings and Democratic lobbyists on K st. Maybe then we can get a government of the people.

And no, that's not all of them. Just a sampling from the good "conservatives" in America who watch Fox "News" and read their website "religiously".

How stupid can you get without your brain residing somewhere in the vicinity your appendix?

I note that some of these whiz kids claim to be from Texas. Things being as they are today, I'd not consider that to be much of a bragging point, and they are a part of the reason why.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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podcat
Skeptic Friend

435 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2009 :  19:43:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send podcat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jon Stewart went after Fox & Fiends for that:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-december-8-2009/gretchen-carlson-dumbs-down

As for Washington Times going under, I would have thought for sure O'Reilly would have gone after that durn "librul medyuh" for that.

“In a modern...society, everybody has the absolute right to believe whatever they damn well please, but they don't have the same right to be taken seriously”.

-Barry Williams, co-founder, Australian Skeptics
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2009 :  05:05:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pot, kettle -- black! They really do leave themselves wide open for charges, accurate ones, of hypocrisy, don't they? But then, O'Reilly needs a gig and FOX is about the only place of any stature, however low, that will have him.
Fri Dec 11, 1:34 pm ET
Fox News' Bill O'Reilly lashed out at "Law & Order" franchise creator/executive producer Dick Wolf Thursday night. The bombastic host, upset over how he was recently characterized on the long-running NBC drama, called the "far left" Wolf a "despicable human being" whose show is "out of control."

Sparking O'Reilly's ire was an episode of "Law and Order: Special Victims Unit" that aired earlier in the week, in which a crazed anti-immigration activist set out to murder the children of illegal immigrants. In one scene, a character named Randall Carver, played by veteran actor John Larroquette, is sitting on a park bench talking to Fin, the detective played by Ice-T. In defending the actions of the man who killed the immigrants’ children, Larroquette's character says, "Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, all of 'em, they are like a cancer spreading ignorance and hate...They've convinced folks that immigrants are the problem, not corporations that fail to pay a living wage or a broken health care system..."

John Larroquette's script had it nailed down tight & right. These creeps are malignent tumors, even bubos, with the unique ability to be flatulent at both ends -- a talent they showcase constantly.

So cry me a river, Billy-boy, cry me a river. And when you're finished had have wiped the crocodilian tears from your apoplectic, double face, reflect upon this: it took a bullet in the head to save Joseph Goebbles from the Nuremberg hangman.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2009 :  09:26:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I call "GOATS ON FIRE!" on the quotes Filthy gave us in his third post above. If those are not GOF statements, nothing is.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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