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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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 Posted - 01/15/2010 : 18:56:05 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ThorGoLucky
Originally posted by ThorGoLucky
I read that the Doctors with Borders lost all three of their hospitals to the quake in Haiti. Eeeep! What a crushing tragedy, no pun intended. Very very sad. :(
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*WITHOUT Borders. I can no longer edit or delete my messages. Why?
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That was a relaively minor typo. In contrast, imagine my chagrin when I realized the money I sent to Doctors With Garters is probably not going to help the Haitians anymore than Pat Robertson will.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 01/16/2010 : 02:53:40 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ThorGoLucky
Originally posted by ThorGoLucky
I read that the Doctors with Borders lost all three of their hospitals to the quake in Haiti. Eeeep! What a crushing tragedy, no pun intended. Very very sad. :(
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*WITHOUT Borders. I can no longer edit or delete my messages. Why?
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There is a time-limit imposed on posts, after which they cannot be edited. It's there to protect old content from being drastically altered. There's a discussion about that in this thread.
However, you tried to edit a post within a minute. So there has to be some other problem.
The first suggestion is to check if you are really logged in properly. At the top of every page, in the black field opposite the SFN-globe there should be the text "You are logged in as xxxx".
If you are logged in, try clearing out the cookies, and log in again.
If anyone else is experiencing problems editing newly made posts, please PM Dave. W or @tomic. |
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Bill scott
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Posted - 01/16/2010 : 09:22:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Thanks for that, Hal and bngbuck.
Meanwhile, the execrable Pat Robertson is blaming the quake on the Haitians for making a deal with Satan to throw off their French masters (he doesn't mention the slavery thing), while using the catastrophe to raise money for his own missionaries.
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Check this one out:
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/pact_with_gaia/
Actor Danny Glover believes that the Haitian earthquake was caused by climate change and global warming:
And since the US is biggest cause of CC and GW the US is therefoe the cause of the Hatian quake.
Is this guy flippin serious? |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 01/16/2010 : 09:58:00 [Permalink]
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Even if this weren't a "who cares what Danny Glover thinks?" moment, he's clearly saying that the international rescue effort that's going on in Haiti right now should be the model for our response to climate change.
But of course, it's easier to make fun of him if you reverse his intended meaning, like you and Tim Blair have done. So yeah, Danny Glover is serious, and you're not. Heck, you're so busy ridiculing people like Glover and Halfmooner that you can't even explain the harm which would be done by gays getting married. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 01/16/2010 : 10:05:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Bill scott
Originally posted by HalfMooner
Thanks for that, Hal and bngbuck.
Meanwhile, the execrable Pat Robertson is blaming the quake on the Haitians for making a deal with Satan to throw off their French masters (he doesn't mention the slavery thing), while using the catastrophe to raise money for his own missionaries.
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Check this one out:
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/pact_with_gaia/
Actor Danny Glover believes that the Haitian earthquake was caused by climate change and global warming:
And since the US is biggest cause of CC and GW the US is therefoe the cause of the Hatian quake.
Is this guy flippin serious?
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Could be, could be..... Hollywood celebrates are rarely any smarter than the rest of us, therefore, woo abounds and idiocy is rife.
I've been in Port au Prince a couple of times, back when Baby Doc was the scumbag in chief. The city was an armpit then and was so when the quake hit. Those people need help bad, but then, they always have....
The quake was caused by tectonic plate movement.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2010 : 12:13:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Bill scott
Originally posted by HalfMooner
Thanks for that, Hal and bngbuck.
Meanwhile, the execrable Pat Robertson is blaming the quake on the Haitians for making a deal with Satan to throw off their French masters (he doesn't mention the slavery thing), while using the catastrophe to raise money for his own missionaries.
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Check this one out:
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/pact_with_gaia/
Actor Danny Glover believes that the Haitian earthquake was caused by climate change and global warming:
And since the US is biggest cause of CC and GW the US is therefoe the cause of the Hatian quake.
Is this guy flippin serious?
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Yes, that's really ignorant on Glover's part, and that's giving him the benefit of the doubt. He could be crazy instead. |
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podcat
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 01/16/2010 : 20:10:37 [Permalink]
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Actually, I'm leaning toward Dave W's interpretation, and Glover could have meant his comments in that fashion. And even if Glover is claiming that global warming may have caused the earthquake, it may not as far-fetched as it is made out:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327273.800-climate-change-may-trigger-earthquakes-and-volcanoes.html?full=true
So there is some evidence that global warming may at least contribute to conditions that cause earthquakes. Where's the evidence that the earthquake in Haiti was caused as punishment for the natives making a pact with the devil?
And does that mean we have to give back all or part of 14 states we got in the Louisiana Purchase, because we got that as a result of Haiti's "pact with the devil"? |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 01/16/2010 : 23:10:39 [Permalink]
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Bill scott.....
What was your Christian contribution to Haiti relief, Bill? |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2010 : 00:14:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Even if this weren't a "who cares what Danny Glover thinks?" moment, he's clearly saying that the international rescue effort that's going on in Haiti right now should be the model for our response to climate change.
But of course, it's easier to make fun of him if you reverse his intended meaning, like you and Tim Blair have done. So yeah, Danny Glover is serious, and you're not. Heck, you're so busy ridiculing people like Glover and Halfmooner that you can't even explain the harm which would be done by gays getting married.
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Yeah, clearly I wasn't doing my homework when I came down on Danny Glover. He's NOT blaming the quake on AGW, but is talking about the ineffectiveness of Copenhagen as a bad example for disaster response, and as a potential for continuing to allow further disasters such as hurricanes (which are pegged to AGW). Glover certainly didn't organize his thoughts, but I now think that what he meant. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 01/17/2010 : 00:31:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Glover certainly didn't organize his thoughts... |
Yeah, that much is definitely true. Of course, I can't say that I would do any better, but this guy is allegedly a long-time activist and should (perhaps) be more prepared for a two-minute call-in.
Someone(s) on Wikipedia describes his statement thusly:On January 13, 2010, Glover compared the 2010 Haiti earthquake to the predicament other island nations may face as a result of the failed Copenhagen summit the previous year. In the same statement, he called for a partnership with Haiti and a new form of internationalism. So whoever wrote that didn't get "Haiti quake caused by AGW," either. |
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Bill scott
SFN Addict
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Posted - 01/17/2010 : 05:40:02 [Permalink]
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| Originally posted by HalfMooner |
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Bill scott
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Posted - 01/17/2010 : 05:49:49 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bngbuck
Bill scott.....
What was your Christian contribution to Haiti relief, Bill?
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What is your atheistic contribution to any or all human relief efforts over, say, the last five years? What about your personal volunteer time? |
"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-
"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 01/17/2010 : 06:14:08 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Bill scott
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What part of "warm ocean surface waters fuel hurricanes" don't you understand, Bill? |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2010 : 06:17:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Bill scott
Originally posted by bngbuck
Bill scott.....
What was your Christian contribution to Haiti relief, Bill?
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What is your atheistic contribution to any or all human relief efforts over, say, the last five years? What about your personal volunteer time?
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So, you gave nothing, huh? |
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