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SFN Die Hard
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Originally posted by cantbe323
Sooooo... out of the 5+ billion people alive today and the trillions of people who have walked this earth, you (and you alone) are the only person who has questioned whatever it is you are questioning? >>
That's about it. Most of the things I know by exposure, experience, observation and assimilation aren't found in books or scientific papers.
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How do you know this? Have you done the research necessary to confidently make such a statement?
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 01/26/2010 : 17:36:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by cantbe323
We're waiting for evidence of your expertise. >>
There is no evidence of my expertise, only me, my experience, my common sense, my unfettered powers of observation and deduction, and my vision.
<<Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.>>
Yeah, and extraordinary gotchas require extraordinary armor.
<<You would ask nothing less of others, so why should you be exempt?>>
Wrong... I only observe and find wrongs, hope someone can see the same wrongs and debate it with me. So far the only feedback I've gotten back is more gotchas, very little constructive dialog.
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What are you looking for, cantbe323, agreement or debate? Come up with something more solid than the "experience" and so forth, and you'll get agreement and debate.
Or why don't you swallow your gorge and ask a question? That way, you just might get a good one going.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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bngbuck
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Posted - 01/26/2010 : 18:43:43 [Permalink]
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| That's about it. Most of the things I know by exposure, experience, observation and assimilation aren't found in books or scientific papers. |
In an untanned orifice of your body, maybe? |
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Fripp
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Posted - 01/26/2010 : 18:53:04 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by cantbe323
There is no evidence of my expertise
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Boy, is that an understatement
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof."
Yeah, and extraordinary gotchas require extraordinary armor. |
You are overwhelmingly concerned with "gotchas". Why is that? Have you been asked for your imaginary expertise before?
I wasn't even aware that I was engaging in "gotcha"ism. Could you illustrate what and where the "gotchas" are?
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/26/2010 : 20:15:49 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by cantbe323
True skeptics ARE contrarians. |
This guy is a big fan of the No True Scotsman fallacy. "True skeptics." "True science." cantbe knows all the "true" stuff, but refuses to share it with us, and then berates us for being "blind" in his self-fulfilling arrogance.
Wow, guys, I just figured it out! With his assertions of going where no man has gone before, and suggestions that anyone who disagrees with him is somehow obstructing him (and suggestions of persecution), it's clear that he doesn't just have delusions of grandeur, cantbe323 has a messiah complex.
Even his favorite quote, "there are none so blind as he who will not see," so well describes the sentiments in Matthew 13:13, Isaiah 6:9-10 and Jeremiah 5:21 that I'd bet that the earliest writers to use it were likely just paraphrasing the Bible. |
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Posted - 01/31/2010 : 13:05:18 [Permalink]
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Wow, guys, I just figured it out! With his assertions of going where no man has gone before, and suggestions that anyone who disagrees with him is somehow obstructing him (and suggestions of persecution), it's clear that he doesn't just have delusions of grandeur, cantbe323 has a messiah complex. >>
Not at all, only the capability to observe and point out wrongs based on my lengthy experiences and engineering background.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 01/31/2010 : 13:40:47 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by cantbe323
Wow, guys, I just figured it out! With his assertions of going where no man has gone before, and suggestions that anyone who disagrees with him is somehow obstructing him (and suggestions of persecution), it's clear that he doesn't just have delusions of grandeur, cantbe323 has a messiah complex. >>
Not at all, only the capability to observe and point out wrongs based on my lengthy experiences and engineering background.
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Yes, and I am in communication with the shapely spirit of Marie Laveau, and can prognosticate the past, present and future with a dead chicken.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/31/2010 : 14:07:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by cantbe323
Not at all, only the capability to observe and point out wrongs based on my lengthy experiences and engineering background. |
And when the "wrongs" you point out are outside the scope of your background and experiences, you seem to enjoy parading your ignorance around. From what we've seen from you so far, your background and experiences cannot possibly include any cosmology, astronomy, biology, medicine or earth sciences from the last 100 years, but you feel more than qualified to dump on all of them. And people who disagree with you are dismissed out of hand, with an egocentric quip and a hint that you bring fire. But when asked to share that fire, you either bugger off or trot out something which delivers to heat or light. |
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Posted - 02/04/2010 : 16:25:17 [Permalink]
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And when the "wrongs" you point out are outside the scope of your background and experiences, you seem to enjoy parading your ignorance around. From what we've seen from you so far, your background and experiences cannot possibly include any cosmology, astronomy, biology, medicine or earth sciences from the last 100 years, but you feel more than qualified to dump on all of them. >>
Raising questions on what scientists can actually see isn't dumping. It's moving the question along and hoping for a debate from those who also recognize the need to know.
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Posted - 02/04/2010 : 16:31:48 [Permalink]
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That's about it. Most of the things I know by exposure, experience, observation and assimilation aren't found in books or scientific papers.
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How do you know this? Have you done the research necessary to confidently make such a statement?
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That's a trick question. IMO, Nobody can research enough to be confident in anything because research quests in every subject are never ending.
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Fripp
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Posted - 02/04/2010 : 18:44:49 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by cantbe323
That's a trick question. IMO, Nobody can research enough to be confident in anything because research quests in every subject are never ending.
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How in the hell can that be a trick question? On one hand, you are more than confident enough to dump on pharmaceutical, astronomy, etc, with knowledge you gained from research, then you contradict yourself with that crap above? By your standard, no one can ever be confident enough in a field to place anything more than blind trust in an "expert", but then you criticize those same people for having blind faith.
It's a trick question? Meaning, it's a trick that requires you to give an answer that makes sense. t's just a cop out. answer the question. |
"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"
"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?" |
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Posted - 02/04/2010 : 22:49:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by cantbe323
Raising questions on what scientists can actually see isn't dumping. It's moving the question along and hoping for a debate from those who also recognize the need to know. |
No, it is begging the experts to give you an education. To intelligently debate a subject, you actually have to know what the cutting edge is, already. Your statements about cosmology, for example, demonstrate that any debate on the subject will need to first begin with you being taught the last century's worth of science on the subject. This moves nothing along, but instead just wastes a person's time.
Similarly with the "debate" you've engaged in on the other thread. You seemingly want to discuss the basis of sensory experience and knowledge (yet won't clarify your position when asked), but admit your ignorance of and confusion about a basic epistemological position like solipsism. How in the world do you think you can move any question along in such a fashion?
The fact is, you don't have a clue as to what scientists "can actually see," and the questions you raise demonstrate that with a stunning clarity. The simplest of scientific methods seems to have escaped your grasp (actually, you outright reject them in favor of a naive, brute-force empiricism discarded by academics thousands of years ago), but you expect PhD-level answers without the background knowledge given to high school freshmen. |
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ThorGoLucky
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Posted - 02/21/2010 : 22:27:17 [Permalink]
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cantbe323 seems to be one of those humans that confuses the private biochemical thoughts in his evolved primate brain to be reality without bothering to verify that it's so.
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Posted - 02/22/2010 : 13:15:45 [Permalink]
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The fact is, you don't have a clue as to what scientists "can actually see," >>
Are you saying sientists have second sight, a sight that no other human being has? If true, then I can understand your willingness to protect their sacred honor at all costs, even when it means exposing yourself to ridicule.
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Posted - 02/22/2010 : 13:22:48 [Permalink]
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cantbe323 seems to be one of those humans that confuses the private biochemical thoughts in his evolved primate brain to be reality without bothering to verify that it's so. >>
Take another look into your mirror. The person you described is YOU, not me.
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