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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 01/24/2010 :  05:08:37  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 01/24/2010 :  05:30:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heh, indeedy!

However there is one out there that is very dangerous to diabetics. I speak of the heavily advertised Glymetrol.

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Glymetrol: A scam targeting people with diabetes
I’ve recently seen a number of TV commercials for a product called Glymetrol that are extremely troubling. In fact, I find the marketing of Glymetrol offensive on so many levels it’s hard to know where to begin telling you about it. First is the cavalier manner in which this “natural” product is being marketed to people with diabetes, a potentially life-threatening disease, with severe long-term consequences if not managed properly, even though it has neither been reviewed nor approved by the FDA. People with diabetes should be under the close care of a physician fully knowledgeable about their condition, their blood sugar levels, their diet, their weight, their insulin sensitivity and their medications. Only at the bottom of the Glymetrol FAQs page does it even remotely suggest consulting a physician, and even then it’s only in regard to whether the product might negatively interact with other prescription medications one might be taking.

But because Glymetrol contains “natural” herbs and minerals, it needs no FDA review and they can say practically whatever they want. And what they say is both bold and, at least to me, quite shocking:

Healthy blood sugar management
Maintains healthy glucose metabolism
Maintains healthy insulin sensitivity
Maintains healthy glucose concentration

These are all critical factors for people with diabetes. The problem is, however, that no one has a clue whether or not Glymetrol actually achieves any of these claims, let alone all of them. That’s because Glymetrol has never been studied in anyone, let alone in people with diabetes. If it had you can be sure they’d be telling you about it and promoting it, which they’re not. And while the individual herbs contained in Glymetrol may have been shown in animal or laboratory studies, or perhaps even in small human trials to have some effect or influence on blood sugar metabolism or levels, it’s far from definitive that any are effective in the treatment of people with diabetes and there’s certainly no evidence that all of them combined together are either safe or effective."







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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 01/24/2010 :  05:49:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But isn't the danger "merely" that diabetics won't use real medicine? It isn't that the homeopaths are actively poisoning people, right? Just diverting them (and their money) from life-saving care. (I once read that Buddhist fishermen sometimes rationalize that they don't actively kill fish, but merely remove them from the water.)

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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ThorGoLucky
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USA
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Posted - 01/25/2010 :  18:39:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit ThorGoLucky's Homepage Send ThorGoLucky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A woo friend gave me concentrated cinnimon to supposedly help with my type 2 diabettes. I explained to her that cinnimon contains many chemicals including courmarin, a benzopyrone toxin. I use it for cooking and sometimes I will put a drop on my tongue for the delightful party of taste that it induces.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 01/25/2010 :  19:12:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My “Evil Pick” in the latest SFN Skeptic Summary is 51 “Facts” About Homeopathy. Take a look…

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Why not question something for a change?

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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 01/25/2010 :  19:24:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

But isn't the danger "merely" that diabetics won't use real medicine? It isn't that the homeopaths are actively poisoning people, right? Just diverting them (and their money) from life-saving care.
Actually, the real danger is that one or more of the ingredients...
Alpha Lipoic Acid, Gymnema Sylvestre, Cinnamon Extract, Fenugreek, Bitter Melon Extract, Nopal Cactus, American Ginseng, Salacia Oblonga Extract, Banaba Leaf Extract, Chromium, Zinc, and Biotin.
...may exacerbate diabetes. This wouldn't be the first time that people have created fake homeopathic products just to get around FDA requirements, claiming that the minimum dilution (a single 10-to-1 dilution) is "extra strength" (which goes against the tenets of homeopathy).

Actually, I can't find anything claiming that Glymetrol is homeopathic. So forget those bits.

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 01/25/2010 :  22:39:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, now I see where you and Filthy are coming from, Dave.

So, if the nostrum was really "homeopathic," it would be safe to take, being pure, totally useless water. But the quacks just use the homeopathic label as a ruse to sale unproven/dangerous ingredients.

My graphic assumes all homeopahic "remedies" are useless water, but some sold as "homeopathic" are actually worse than useless.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Edited by - HalfMooner on 01/26/2010 01:16:24
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2010 :  22:40:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

My “Evil Pick” in the latest SFN Skeptic Summary is 51 “Facts” About Homeopathy. Take a look…
Thanks. Good to know that stuff.

Edited to add:

The quote in the graphic below is taken from the "facts" about homeopathy that Dr. Mark Crislip, MD, so soundly refutes:


Mclean has no idea whatsoever what a "genetic illness" is. Tuberculosis, syphilis, gonorrhoea, scabies and leprosy are not genetic diseases. They are all caused by microorganism infections. (Cancer, yes, sometimes it is genetic.) Hasn't Mclean even heard of that new-fangled idea called "Germ Theory"?

Why anyone who is so bizarrely and profoundly ignorant of basic medical science is allowed to "treat" disease is beyond my understanding.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Edited by - HalfMooner on 01/26/2010 05:26:43
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2010 :  01:24:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The peddling of useless or poisonous nostrums has a long and sordid history:


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 01/26/2010 01:29:37
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2010 :  05:17:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mclean has no idea whatsoever what a "genetic illness" is. Tuberculosis, syphilis, gonorrhoea, scabies and leprosy are not genetic diseases. They are all caused by microorganism infections. (Cancer, yes, sometimes it is genetic.) Hasn't Mclean even heard of that new-fangled idea called "Germ Theory"?

I'm sure she has, but after all, it's only a theory.

This is shrewed marketing, though: make up a list of ghastly diseases, imply that they are a part of the mark's genetic makeup, poor fellow, and are just waiting to flair up and take him out. Her timely treatment will prevent that, and not a minute too soon!

Most people are not that stupid & gullible, but enough are that homeopathic and faith-healing quacks can wax prosperous from their foolishness. Mclean is just another grifter who might well cast fortunes on the side. The world is full of 'em.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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