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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 02/06/2010 : 16:37:22
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It's been a while since they had a column I considered worth passing along. This week, feature a favorite of mine; a giant salamander from Japan.
Link
Also, we get into the dino/bird non-controversy life's origins (of course  ) and some other neat-o stuff.
1. ScienceDaily: “New Research Rejects 80-Year Theory of ‘Primordial Soup’ as the Origin of Life”
This week:
1.No soup for you, evolutionists
2.The dino-bird that wasn’t
3.Salamander attack!
4.Tennis, yes; house, no
5.Could Christianity “survive”?
6.And Don’t Miss . . .
Did you miss it? Catch last week’s News to Note or any other!
Evolutionists and creationists alike, watch your language: the supposed “primordial soup” of life’s beginnings is no longer kosher.
Although Darwinists have not yet established how life could have arisen from non-life, they often make vague references to a “primordial soup” as the progenitor of the first life. They suppose that the soup contained the right pre-biotic chemicals and that an external source of energy transformed a spoonful of it into a self-reproducing entity.
Scientists have suggested alternatives to the primordial soup before, and it appears some are ready to abandon the concept entirely. A European team publishing in BioEssays argues that deep-sea hydrothermal vents, not primordial soup, hosted early life. Team Leader Nick Lane of University College London explains why: “Textbooks have it that life arose from organic soup and that the first cells grew by fermenting these organics to generate energy in the form of ATP. We provide a new perspective on why that old and familiar view won’t work at all.”
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I also like the hydrothermal vent hypothesis, for whatever that's worth. It's certainly more reasonable to me than the handful of magic dirt in the Bible and the warm, little pond somewhere as well.
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Hawks
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Canada
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 17:15:33 [Permalink]
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The hydrothermal vent hypothesis certainly has a couple of advantages of the old pond. Such a system is far from equilibrium given the constant creation of complex molecules being pushed through it. It also suffers a lot less from the concentration problem since the vents are rich in small cavities.
Perhaps AiG likes neither hypotheses since none of them require magic? |
METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
It's a small, off-duty czechoslovakian traffic warden! |
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The Rat
SFN Regular
Canada
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 Posted - 02/06/2010 : 17:23:26 [Permalink]
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| Although creationists have not yet established how life could have arisen from dust, they often make vague references to a “god” as the progenitor of the first life. They suppose that the dust contained the right pre-biotic chemicals and that an supernatural puff of air transformed a large lump of it into a self-reproducing entity. |
There, fixed it.
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Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.
You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church? - The Bishop of Bath and Wells, Blackadder II
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the_ignored
SFN Addict
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 18:01:59 [Permalink]
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You know what gets me? The AIG people brag about how "evolutionists" are shooting down each others theories of life, then blindly assume that their mythology is correct; yet in the very article that they link to a more plausible idea of the formation of life (among hydorthermal vents) is proposed. All a person has to do is click on AIG's own link to see it.
Do they count on either people not bothering to click, or are they hoping that their constant poo-pooing of science will make their readers just blindly dissmiss that theory as well?
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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pleco
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 18:16:01 [Permalink]
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tthey count on either people not bothering to click, or areand they hopinge that their constant poo-pooing of science will make their readers just blindly dissmiss that theory as well |
by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 19:12:50 [Permalink]
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What it is, they're preaching to the choir. They can be confident that the regular visitors to the site are young earth believers who will take their word for anything with never a quibble. Accuracy and scientific facts mean nothing.
It is interesting, but not surprising, that they comment gleefully on hypothesis being changed as studies go along, yet fail to mention that the information that led to the change was brought forth by those same reviled scientists and not creationists. I find it all highly amusing.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/07/2010 : 00:33:31 [Permalink]
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I especially enjoy it when Creos like the AiG jerk-offs say something along the line of this (fictional) example of mine:| For decades, Darwinist scientists have insisted that the ancestors of birds were the feathered theropod dinosaurs of 140 million years ago. But now, new research now proves this ancestor lived a full 20 million years earlier than that! Scientists are simply thrashing around with their "theories," while God's Creation in six days remains the gold standard of truth. |
Of course, any timeline that goes back further than 6000 years is a disaster to Creo preachers. But they try to keep their flocks too stupid to think about that. |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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the_ignored
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Posted - 02/08/2010 : 02:50:17 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by the_ignored
You know what gets me? The AIG people brag about how "evolutionists" are shooting down each others theories of life, then blindly assume that their mythology is correct; yet in the very article that they link to a more plausible idea of the formation of life (among hydorthermal vents) is proposed. All a person has to do is click on AIG's own link to see it.
Do they count on either people not bothering to click, or are they hoping that their constant poo-pooing of science will make their readers just blindly dissmiss that theory as well?
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Whoops. I buggered up. AIG does mention the hydorthermal vents in their article. They just go ahead and pooh-pooh it though.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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