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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 02/07/2010 :  05:39:09  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you sir, and you'll receive your license in about a week.

South Carolina, a state that has recently garnered a lot of attention, much of it amused, has gone the extra mile to take us from mere amusement to side-splitting hilarity. They're demanding that subversives get a state license to continue their vile plotting.
No joke: South Carolina now requires ’subversives’ to register

By Daniel Tencer
Friday, February 5th, 2010 -- 11:49 am


Five-dollar registration fee for persons planning to overthrow US government

Terrorists who want to overthrow the United States government must now register with South Carolina's Secretary of State and declare their intentions -- or face a $25,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison.

The state's "Subversive Activities Registration Act," passed last year and now officially on the books, states that "every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State."

There's even a $5 filing fee.

Ok, lessee now, who, aside from myself and various others on these subversive boards, would be required to get the ticket?

There's the teabaggers in all of their various shapes and forms; religious outfits such as Focus on the Family; all other evangelicals; The state of Vermont; 2/3 of the population of TX; the town of Wasilla, Alaska and it's surrounds; the Senate Republicans; all Blue Dog Democrats; President Barack Obama, just on general principles; any current or former hippie; Michael Steele; the Scientologists; Miss Cleo -- remember her?; the production crews and casts of most sci-fi flicks and the authors of the novels that inspired them; the retarded gentleman that hangs out at the courthouse whom everybody calls "Scoot;" the KKK; the Family in the house on C Street; all of the militias and survivalists; Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly and the rest of the blathering heads at FOX News(?); Rush Limbaugh; Benny Hinn; Ken Ham; Eric Hovind and his currently out-of-circulation daddy; Ray Comfort; ex-judge "Ten Commandments" Moore; 5 of the SCOTUS justices -- they know who they are!; the other four of those same justices, who also know who they are; Tom DeLay; Dick Cheney; Karl Rove; Donald Rumsfeld et al. of the Bush maladministration including the entire Bush family; Oliver North; the Jews; the gays; the atheists; the Vietman Veterans; any and all black persons who won't vote our way even with a bribe; all Latinos; the surviving members of the A Team; Cheech and Chong...... Come to think of it, just about everyfrackin'body depending upon your point of view.

Welladay, this could turn into a sweet, little money maker for SC, a state where some outfit, who's name I've forgotten and don't feel like looking up because it's less than important, intended to set up some sort of religious fiefdom a few years back. Which makes SC too, a subversive organization.

I am sorely tempted to invest the finny and get the license. Tastfully framed, it would make a neat wall hanger, as well as confirm local suspicions.



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Kil
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Posted - 02/07/2010 :  09:25:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
filthy:
I am sorely tempted to invest the finny and get the license. Tastfully framed, it would make a neat wall hanger, as well as confirm local suspicions.

Only a fin for the license? Well worth the money, I say. I want one too!!!


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Why not question something for a change?

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 02/07/2010 :  20:26:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This reminds me of both America's own Alien and Sedition Acts, and the Nazi "People's Court" (Volksgerichtshof)), which was essentially an illegal court which nevertheless had the brute power of the Third Reich behind it. Except, thankfully, North Carolina's law is clearly not only illegal, but unenforceable.

Perhaps it's needless to mention it, but even this non-lawyer is certain that this statute is illegal in several ways: Most obviously, as a repression of civil rights and as an incitement to law enforcement in South Carolina to spy upon, arrest and harass dissenting citizens; and also as a law that invades an area of national security and foreign affairs that is reserved constitutionally (as well as constitutionally limited) by the Federal government.

It was doubtless passed by politicians who don't seriously expect the law to stand, but are merely whoring to a very far right faction in SC.

But I, too want one of those certificates.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Edited by - HalfMooner on 02/07/2010 20:34:16
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astropin
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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  10:13:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send astropin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
lol

I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.

You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.

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Dude
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Posted - 02/09/2010 :  10:35:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

This reminds me of both America's own Alien and Sedition Acts, and the Nazi "People's Court" (Volksgerichtshof)), which was essentially an illegal court which nevertheless had the brute power of the Third Reich behind it. Except, thankfully, North Carolina's law is clearly not only illegal, but unenforceable.

Perhaps it's needless to mention it, but even this non-lawyer is certain that this statute is illegal in several ways: Most obviously, as a repression of civil rights and as an incitement to law enforcement in South Carolina to spy upon, arrest and harass dissenting citizens; and also as a law that invades an area of national security and foreign affairs that is reserved constitutionally (as well as constitutionally limited) by the Federal government.

It was doubtless passed by politicians who don't seriously expect the law to stand, but are merely whoring to a very far right faction in SC.

But I, too want one of those certificates.


'Mooner, it also seems to violate free speech. You and I can stand on a corner and shout "death to america!" all day long and the gov can't do anything to stop us. The locals might kick our asses, but the gov can't limit speech in that way. Requiring a license, even if it was free of charge, can be nothing but government intimidation in an effort to restrict free speech.

If anyone is ever charged with this I suspect it will be struck down by any court, even a hyper conservative one.


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-- Thomas Jefferson

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The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 02/09/2010 :  11:38:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

Originally posted by HalfMooner

This reminds me of both America's own Alien and Sedition Acts, and the Nazi "People's Court" (Volksgerichtshof)), which was essentially an illegal court which nevertheless had the brute power of the Third Reich behind it. Except, thankfully, North Carolina's law is clearly not only illegal, but unenforceable.

Perhaps it's needless to mention it, but even this non-lawyer is certain that this statute is illegal in several ways: Most obviously, as a repression of civil rights and as an incitement to law enforcement in South Carolina to spy upon, arrest and harass dissenting citizens; and also as a law that invades an area of national security and foreign affairs that is reserved constitutionally (as well as constitutionally limited) by the Federal government.

It was doubtless passed by politicians who don't seriously expect the law to stand, but are merely whoring to a very far right faction in SC.

But I, too want one of those certificates.


'Mooner, it also seems to violate free speech. You and I can stand on a corner and shout "death to america!" all day long and the gov can't do anything to stop us. The locals might kick our asses, but the gov can't limit speech in that way. Requiring a license, even if it was free of charge, can be nothing but government intimidation in an effort to restrict free speech.

If anyone is ever charged with this I suspect it will be struck down by any court, even a hyper conservative one.
Oh, that's the biggest issue absolutely,Dude! I think that must have been so instantly obvious that I forgot about it and passed it right by when I was posting. And I don't mean that sardonically, but literally.

Also, Dude, isn't South Carolina trying to make money by licensing sedition against the Federal Government? I mean, treason is fine by them so long as it's not sedition against their own Podunk state.

They just want to turn SC into the treason capital of the US and makes some money from it, right?

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 02/09/2010 :  12:00:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There is no readily apparent rational explanation for this new law. It could be seeen, maybe, as one of those stacking violation things, like requiring drug dealers to report drug sale income... just to make the prison sentence longer and the fines more harsh.

But the obvious violation of free speech in this thing makes me doubt the literacy of the legislators who voted for it. I think they should all be subject to a "civics literacy test" before they are allowed to vote on new laws. Such a thing might save their state millions in legal fees when these clearly unconstitutional laws are challenged in the courts.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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