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Rudolfo
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 Posted - 03/27/2010 : 04:58:38
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There are two types of testimony for the holocaust, testimony from Jewish eyewitnesses, and trial testimony given by Nazis. This thread will only consider Jewish testimony, the Nazi testimony will be covered in the conspiracy thread.
The easiest way to see that the holocaust is a hoax is to read the actual testimony of the Jewish eyewitnesses. It is, invariably, not only false but absurd. So, you don't have to know any of the history of WW II to recognize the 'testimony' as obvious phantasmagoria. So, if you have a reading list that includes the most important Jewish witnesses, Elie Wiesel, Filip Mueller, Yankel Weirnik, and Abraham Bomba, you'll soon be a holocaust skeptic. But, YOU HAVE TO READ THE ACTUAL EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS, synopses won't do.
Yad Vashem is the repository of Jewish eyewitness accounts, and there are many (50,000 ?). So, we'll just choose one of the most compelling to examine in detail. And fortunately, the Israelis have chosen the most compelling for us. They made a movie, 'Shoah', Hebrew for holocaust, that featured accounts from eyewitnesses to the holocaust.
And, even more fortunately the testimony of Abraham Bomba, from the movie, is online and you can watch it right now at episode 7 at
http://www.holocaustdenialvideos.com/one_third_of_the_holocaust.html
There is some annoying commentary added which you can ignore.
For various reasons, if not obvious to you they are mentioned in the commentary, Bomba's testimony is absurd. So I'm going to assume that that is self-evident. What I want to focus on is that the testimony is degenerate. Bomba describes how Jewish barbers gave haircuts to roomfuls of women, stripped naked !, right in the gas chambers where the women were to be gassed immediately after the haircuts. How freaking absurd can it get. But, there's more. The women included the Jews' mothers and sisters. Bomba actually tears up at this point. He gives his mother a haircut before she is gassed, and tells about it and sheds a tear. Folks, it doesn't get any more degenerate than that.
But there is more. Bomba became a national hero in Israel. What does that tell you about the Israelis?
Any new skeptics out there ?????
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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/27/2010 : 10:27:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Rudolfo
There are two types of testimony for the holocaust, testimony from Jewish eyewitnesses, and trial testimony given by Nazis. |
Since that is a profoundly false premise, I think we are done here. |
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Ricky
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 03/27/2010 : 10:49:55 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by Rudolfo
There are two types of testimony for the holocaust, testimony from Jewish eyewitnesses, and trial testimony given by Nazis. |
Since that is a profoundly false premise, I think we are done here.
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Exactly. When I read the first two sentences that start this OP, my jaw dropped.
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Randy
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Posted - 03/27/2010 : 17:09:13 [Permalink]
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| Looks like Rudolfo and his turnip truck may have pulled on out of here. |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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Rudolfo
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Posted - 03/27/2010 : 17:41:27 [Permalink]
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[Since that is a profoundly false premise, I think we are done here.]
Well, it looks like I've turned up another false dichotomy. LOL. |
| Edited by - Rudolfo on 03/27/2010 17:41:52 |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/27/2010 : 18:51:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Rudolfo
Well, it looks like I've turned up another false dichotomy. LOL. |
What's to laugh at? You suggested that all the testimonial evidence falls into two categories, when it's obvious that there are many, many more.
Do you really think that the only witnesses to the Holocaust were Jews and Nazis? |
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Rudolfo
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124 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2010 : 08:13:34 [Permalink]
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[Do you really think that the only witnesses to the Holocaust were Jews and Nazis?]
All the testimony worth discussing is from Jews and Nazis I think. The only exception I can think of is some US service guy from Hollywood who hammed it up at Mauthausen after the war, but as his 'testimony' is prima facie absurd, I don't think it's worth mentioning.
So, yes. Who else is there? Eisenhower at the end of the war. No. The condition of the camps at the end of the war is not evidence of the holocaust.
But, if you like, we can rename the thread - Jewish eyewitness holocaust testimony. |
| Edited by - Rudolfo on 03/28/2010 08:19:12 |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/28/2010 : 09:18:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Rudolfo
So, yes. Who else is there? |
Everyone else imprisoned at the camps. Non-Jewish and Non-Nazi Soviets, Gypsies, Poles, Hungarians, Germans, etc., etc.. |
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