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the_ignored
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Posted - 04/14/2010 :  19:10:59  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Looks like Limbaugh is blaming the unions for the West Virginia coal mine explosion.

Ed Brayton.


Problem: He's flat-out wrong.

There’s a simple reason the union didn’t protect the miners: the Upper Big Branch Mine, like nearly all of the mines under Massey CEO Don Blankenship’s control, is non-union. In fact, the United Mine Workers of America (UMW) “tried three times to organize the Upper Big Branch mine, but even with getting nearly 70 percent of workers to sign cards saying they wanted to vote for a union, Blankenship personally met with workers to threaten them with closing down the mine and losing their jobs if they voted for a union.”

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

Edited by - the_ignored on 04/14/2010 19:11:22

Machi4velli
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Posted - 04/14/2010 :  20:23:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is true. UMWA hasn't been in Massey mines since the mid-80s I believe. There was quite a large strike against the same company then. The UMWA used to do nationwide strikes to force companies to do things, but they tried to strike only against that company, which didn't really consist of enough workers, so they could hire strikebreakers to fill in, so it didn't really do anything. Since then, they had little success against Massey and membership dropped off, and UMWA doesn't have a presence there anymore.

I'm not sure there is a very strong correlation between this and mining injuries. I very well could be wrong, but mining disasters have been relatively common in the region with and without unions.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/14/2010 :  20:55:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Massey is now telling employees that if they take time off to attend the funerals of their coworkers, they'll be fired.

Real nice, guys.

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Fripp
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Posted - 04/15/2010 :  05:26:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The problem is that his audience takes what he says as gospel. And he's got a huge audience. So of course, they'll believe his Vicodin-addled blather as the unvarnished truth and it will further harden their hatred of unions.

I don't feel like looking it up, but i believe it was P.T. barnum who said that no one ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the American public.

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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The Rat
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Posted - 04/15/2010 :  05:50:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by FrippI don't feel like looking it up, but i believe it was P.T. barnum who said that no one ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the American public.


I think it was Mencken.

Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.

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The Rat
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Posted - 04/15/2010 :  05:53:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is a good reason to go back to the bad old days of unions, when the stake holding the sign served a dual purpose. If Blankenship threatens to close the mine the workers should pre-empt him and do it themselves, and anyone attempting to enter should face extreme measures.

Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.

You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church? - The Bishop of Bath and Wells, Blackadder II

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