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HalfMooner
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Posted - 04/16/2010 :  06:33:22  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A volcano in Iceland erupted this week. Its volcanic plume is spreading, and now is over Europe.


This is having a pretty big economic impact, as such ash clouds can and have shut down the jet engines of airliners. So most air travel has come to a halt in the region.

I was wondering: Are you Euros seeing the dust in the air? Is it any concern for breathing?


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tomk80
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Netherlands
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Posted - 04/16/2010 :  06:48:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

A volcano in Iceland erupted this week. Its volcanic plume is spreading, and now is over Europe.


This is having a pretty big economic impact, as such ash clouds can and have shut down the jet engines of airliners. So most air travel has come to a halt in the region.

I was wondering: Are you Euros seeing the dust in the air? Is it any concern for breathing?



You can spot it from satelite imaging, but so far the vulcanic eruptions are too small to be noticed from the ground up.

At present, the cloud is still at around 5000 m height and therefore hasn't got an effect on health. At some point the cloud will come down, but probably it will have thinned down enough by then to not have too large of an effect.

To really have a noticeable effect on the ground, the eruption would have to be much larger like the 1783 eruption of Laki. The effects of that eruption can be demonstrated in old population mortality records (like the mortality registries of parishes or burial records). So far, the eruption seems to be relatively minor and latest news is that it is already diminshing in strength again. So up to now there's not too much to worry about.

Of course, there is the chance of nearby volcanoes erupting as well. So we'll have to wait and see what happens.

(We just had a seminar on this at work, one of the advantages on working at a university department with research on the health effects of air pollution )

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
Edited by - tomk80 on 04/16/2010 06:49:34
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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 04/16/2010 :  06:55:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, that's a relief, Tom! I hope there's not another large eruption.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/16/2010 :  07:09:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks to flightradar24, we can see the effects on air traffic:


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HalfMooner
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Posted - 04/16/2010 :  07:12:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So all the aircraft have turned yellow and are huddling in fear in Southern Europe, huh?

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tomk80
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Posted - 04/16/2010 :  07:12:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

Ah, that's a relief, Tom! I hope there's not another large eruption.

One of the funny things is that at the time of the seminar (about 4 hours ago), air flight from Reykyavik Airport (the capital of Iceland)was still uninterrupted because the wind blows in the direction of the European mainland. So the dust cloud was blown away from Reykyavik

And indeed, a large eruption would be bad. But it would also be extremely interesting

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
Edited by - tomk80 on 04/16/2010 07:14:00
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/16/2010 :  07:35:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

So all the aircraft have turned yellow and are huddling in fear in Southern Europe, huh?
And I figure the circles with the question marks in them are UFOs.

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 04/16/2010 :  08:02:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by HalfMooner

So all the aircraft have turned yellow and are huddling in fear in Southern Europe, huh?
And I figure the circles with the question marks in them are UFOs.
And now we know they share one of our weaknesses.

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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 04/16/2010 :  08:18:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Volcanos are probably the biggest threat to civilization, they may have caused the dark ages(Krakatoa 535AD) and most of the greatest famines in recorded history. The bastards! Breathing in glass dust is so awesome. Iceland isnt likely to blow like that due to its numerous vents, however the island could collapse and Tsunami our faces.

The James Bond Supervillan in me was thinking that if I could control volcanic eruptions I could use them as mountain sized jet engines to destablize Earths rotation or orbit, still working out the details. I'm not too hip on the secret volcano-lair, however the sheer number of ways to kill enemy agents with a volcano is quite tempting.

1. Cooked to death (radiant heat)
2. Landslided to death
3. Melted/vaporized by immersion in lava
4. Posion gas
5. Vaporized by pryoclastic flow
6. Crushed by lava bombs
7. Silicosis from breathing ash
8. Choking on too much ash
9. Blasting by expolsive shockwave
10. Drowning by tsunami
11. Crushed by tsunami/shockwave/Pflow debris
12. Famine/starvation
13. Freezing (from ash cloud cooling)
14. I suppose thirst if all the local water is tainted
15. Glacial/Ash/Mud Lahar
16. Steamed Alive
17. Earthquakes
18. Ground collapse/caldera formation(not likely that you would live til this part)
19. Heavy machinery failure(jet engines choking etc.)
20. The crazy humans who survived

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"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
Edited by - BigPapaSmurf on 04/16/2010 08:22:41
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 04/16/2010 :  11:21:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
I'm not too hip on the secret volcano-lair,
But you'll never have a shortage of geo-thermal energy...


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HalfMooner
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Posted - 04/16/2010 :  11:34:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here's the howling face of the Eyjafjallajökull volcano, as seen via radar.

Nothing satanic to see here, people. Move along.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 04/16/2010 :  11:36:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zombies + hamster wheels = renewable energy source

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Hawks
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Posted - 04/16/2010 :  12:27:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hawks's Homepage Send Hawks a Private Message  Reply with Quote
BigPapaSmurf, nothing beats sharks with frickin' laserbeams.

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the_ignored
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Posted - 04/16/2010 :  19:55:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You must be joking: Sharks with laserbeams are an energy expense, not an energy source.


>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
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>
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> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
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What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/16/2010 :  21:31:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bunch of nice photos.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Sweden
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Posted - 04/17/2010 :  04:24:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anyway, I haven't seen anything in the weather thus far. We just has some rain yesterday morning, but the afternoon was ok with partial cloud cover. No ash visible.


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