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SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 04/21/2010 : 13:41:00
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I'm not going to take this apart, as is oft my wont, because it is just too silly in it's whole. Ham believes in UFO pretty much as we do; unexplained, aerial phenomena and not Klingons, or some other imaginary horde of "Take us to your leader, puny human" beasts from Planet Quaalude.
Fair enough, but then he gives his reasons. 
Do I Believe in UFOs? Absolutely! by Ken Ham December 5, Is there intelligent life in outer space?
Although this question intrigues scientists, theology can give us the answer.
Occasionally at conferences, someone will ask, “Do you believe in UFOs?”
I usually answer, “Absolutely! Any flying object that can’t be identified is a UFO.”
I then continue, “But do I believe in UFOs piloted by Vulcans, Klingons, or Cardassians? The answer is a definite no.” Sorry, Star Trek fans!
But if I don’t believe in aliens flying around in UFOs, does that mean I reject the idea that intelligent life could exist in outer space? As one of my friends once said, “Looking at the mess people get themselves into in this world, sometimes I wonder if there’s intelligent life on earth, let alone outer space.”
Extraterrestrials and the Bible
A good friend of mine, Dr. Clifford Wilson, author of the million-copy bestseller Crash Go the Chariots,1 did a lot of research on UFOs. He once told me that he concluded that by far the majority were either misunderstood natural phenomena or misinterpreted manmade objects. However, he did conclude there was a very small percentage that couldn’t be explained, and he allowed the possibility of some supernatural origin—albeit evil. But regardless, he, like me, does not believe in intelligent physical beings on planets other than our earth.
A number of leading evolutionists, like the late Dr. Carl Sagan, have popularized the idea that there must be intelligent life in outer space.2 From an evolutionary perspective, it would make sense to suggest such a possibility. People who believe this possibility contend that, if life evolved on earth by natural processes, intelligent life must exist somewhere else in the far reaches of space, given the size of the universe and the millions of possible planets.
One can postulate endlessly about possibilities of intelligent life in outer space, but I believe a Christian worldview, built on the Bible, rejects such a possibility. Here is why.
During the six days of creation in Genesis 1, we learn that God created the earth first. On Day 4 He made the sun and the moon for the earth, and then “he made the stars also” (Genesis 1:16).
Earth—The Center Stage
From these passages of Scripture it would seem that the earth is very special—it is center stage. Everything else was made for purposes relating to the earth. For instance, the sun, moon, and stars were made “for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years” (Genesis 1:14).
Throughout the Old Testament, many passages distinguish between the heavens and the earth. Psalm 115:16 states, “The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord’s: but the earth has he given to the children of men.”
Many other passages single out the earth as being special, made for humans to dwell on, and a focus of God’s attention, such as Isaiah 66:1: “Thus says the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool.”
Isaiah 40:22 likens the heavens to a curtain that God basically stretches around Him: “It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretches out the heavens as a curtain, and spreads them out as a tent to dwell in.”
Such verses certainly imply that the earth is to be considered separate and special when compared with the rest of the universe, so they suggest that the earth alone was created for life. So far, based on man’s limited exploration of space and the solar system, this certainly holds true.
But there is a theological reason that I believe rules out the possibility of intelligent life in outer space.
The Bible makes it clear in Romans 8:22 that the “whole creation groans” because of Adam’s sin. When Adam fell, the entire universe was affected. Not only this, but one day in the future, there will be “a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away” (Revelation 21:1).
Isaiah 34:4 states, “And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falls off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.”
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Read on, it gets.... well, it just gets, worse or better, depending upon your sense of humor.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 04/21/2010 : 18:50:38 [Permalink]
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Pathetic little wankers like Ken Ham and his ilk live at the center of a very tiny universe that has no scope for life outside earth, for deep time, or even for space that reaches beyond 6,000 light years in any direction. If they don't see it specified in the Bible, it's beyond their ability to see, or even to imagine. Theirs is a cosmos of limitations, hemmed in in size and duration by the collected Bronze Age ignorance of a collection of ancient mid-eastern mythology.
All of which would be fine (though sad), if they didn't also insist upon imprisoning their brainwashed children and everyone else in their tiny little intellectually constricted cage. |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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ThorGoLucky
Snuggle Wolf
USA
1487 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2010 : 19:10:07 [Permalink]
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Funny! And speaking of Carl Sagan, Ken Ham reminds me of this quote:
| In some respects, science has far surpassed religion in delivering awe. How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, "This is better than we thought! The Universe is much bigger than our prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant. God must be even greater than we dreamed"? Instead they say, "No, no, no! My god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way." --Carl Sagan |
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UfOs and Ken Ham.
