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Machi4velli
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Posted - 06/13/2010 :  01:56:28  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not sure if this was ever posted here, but Sagan's Cosmos is available on Hulu:

http://www.hulu.com/cosmos

It's beautiful... what more can I say?

"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking

"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
-Albert Camus

Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 06/13/2010 :  09:04:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Machi4velli

Not sure if this was ever posted here, but Sagan's Cosmos is available on Hulu:

http://www.hulu.com/cosmos

It's beautiful... what more can I say?
Yeah. It was in our Summary some time back as an Evil Pick. It's a great show and well worth seeing if you haven't seen it, and worth seeing again if you have...

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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sailingsoul
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Posted - 06/15/2010 :  18:19:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Carl said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". While not necessarily being an extraordinary claim, this comes with no evidence. Just something I found on the web and I feel a/this post on "Cosmos" deserves more than one reply. SS

edit hyperlink

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
Edited by - sailingsoul on 06/16/2010 04:52:59
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Starman
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Posted - 06/15/2010 :  22:45:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry, currently our video library can only be streamed from within the United States




Well, there are ways around that....
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Machi4velli
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Posted - 06/16/2010 :  15:34:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sagan is pretty new to me, this series was made before I was even born, but I am much more impressed with this than any newer pop sci I have watched/read (though I really love Hawking's A Brief History of Time).

"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking

"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
-Albert Camus
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 06/16/2010 :  17:35:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Machi4velli

Sagan is pretty new to me, this series was made before I was even born, but I am much more impressed with this than any newer pop sci I have watched/read (though I really love Hawking's A Brief History of Time).
I'm glad that youngsters like you can turn onto Carl Sagan. Carl truly had a remarkable ability to express his love and understanding of his space science. He had a way of communicating that could spread his awe of the universe among people like a German Measles epidemic hitting a community of anti-vaxers. Nobody else quite equals Sagan at doing this through speaking, though among contemporary science popularizers, perhaps Neil deGrasse Tyson comes closest.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Machi4velli
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Posted - 06/16/2010 :  19:16:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner
Nobody else quite equals Sagan at doing this through speaking, though among contemporary science popularizers, perhaps Neil deGrasse Tyson comes closest.

I just don't see it. In what I've seen, Tyson always seems to be saying, "look how this works, cool!" He does offer some degree of our smallness in the universe, but in a different way. Maybe he does more somewhere I haven't seen.

"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking

"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
-Albert Camus
Edited by - Machi4velli on 06/16/2010 19:18:00
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Dr. Mabuse
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Sweden
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Posted - 06/17/2010 :  06:58:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner
He had a way of communicating that could spread his awe of the universe among people like a German Measles epidemic hitting a community of anti-vaxers.
So, you've been taking writing notes from filthy, eh?
I like it.

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Kil
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Posted - 06/17/2010 :  10:00:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Machi4velli

Originally posted by HalfMooner
Nobody else quite equals Sagan at doing this through speaking, though among contemporary science popularizers, perhaps Neil deGrasse Tyson comes closest.

I just don't see it. In what I've seen, Tyson always seems to be saying, "look how this works, cool!" He does offer some degree of our smallness in the universe, but in a different way. Maybe he does more somewhere I haven't seen.

I agree that Neil deGrasse Tyson comes the closest. And really, he's a great teacher. He does have that "look how this works, cool!" thing going on, (and I personally saw that in action at TAM6 when he used my arm as part of an impromptu teaching moment about Apophysis.) but so did Sagan. His style is different but the message is the same. In fact, I think because of de Grasse's almost child like enthusiasm for whatever it is he's discussing, he may become even more effective at popularizing science than Sagan was with his more poetic style.

There are probably hundreds of de Grasse clips on youtube. I'll find some of those later that demonstrate his ability to teach and spread his enthusiasm for science like some sort of contact high.

He also writes great books.

On a side note, deGrasse's keynote address at TAM6 was far and away the best talk about skepticism that I have ever seen in person, (having missed Sagan's "The Burden of Skepticism" as the keynote talk, many years ago at a CFI event, which I still consider to be the best.)



Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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filthy
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 06/17/2010 :  11:15:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Originally posted by HalfMooner
He had a way of communicating that could spread his awe of the universe among people like a German Measles epidemic hitting a community of anti-vaxers.
So, you've been taking writing notes from filthy, eh?
I like it.
Me too; wish it'd crossed my mind!

Sagan & Tyson; they're both worth reading, every word.




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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 06/17/2010 :  16:38:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Originally posted by HalfMooner
He had a way of communicating that could spread his awe of the universe among people like a German Measles epidemic hitting a community of anti-vaxers.
So, you've been taking writing notes from filthy, eh?
I like it.
Thanks! You couldn't give me a nicer compliment.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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