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bngbuck
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Posted - 07/27/2010 :  17:20:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dave.....

Thanks for the character entity code information and the HTML chart. Very useful both for SFN posting and a great deal of other typing that I do. Much obliged.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 07/27/2010 :  21:38:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by sailingsoul

Maybe I'm wrong.
No, you're absolutely right. If we take CO2 out of the air, convert it into synthetic organic fuel and then burn it again, we wind up with no net reduction in atmospheric CO2. No net gain, either, so the process winds up being "carbon neutral."

And so, if we were to get all of our hydrocarbon fuels from this process (running BP, Exxon, etc. out of the drilling business), everyone could drive their H3s and Escalades around without any carbon guilt. Whatever carbon that we spew into the air with our dualies and our SUVs would be vacuumed back out and sent back to the pumps for our next fill-up (presumably using renewable power for the process itself). No net increase in CO2 due to driving, trucking, listening to the radio with the A/C cranked to max, whatever. No worries about adding to the problem.

But, there's still way too much CO2 in the atmosphere for comfort. However (if we ignore deforestation for a moment), there are plenty of natural carbon "sinks" which also remove CO2 from the air. Growing plants, shelled marine animals, etc. So with the process above being carbon neutral, these natural processes get to work and actually lower the total CO2 in the atmosphere over the course of decades.

Provided we can switch power plants out of coal into these new "renewable fossil fuels." And that we can convince people to leave the damn trees alone. I wonder if we could air-drop kudzu or fast-growing noxious weeds into places where people are burning trees down for pasture. That'd teach 'em.

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filthy
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Posted - 07/28/2010 :  09:00:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, not kudzu. It is far too excellent a plant.

I have enjoyed stuffed kudzu leaves several times this year. Mmmmm.




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Edited by - filthy on 07/28/2010 09:03:21
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Dave W.
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Posted - 07/28/2010 :  11:07:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

No, not kudzu. It is far too excellent a plant.

I have enjoyed stuffed kudzu leaves several times this year. Mmmmm.
It wasn't a value judgment, we just need something fast-growing and tenacious.

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