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filthy
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Posted - 08/21/2010 :  07:08:52  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A short while ago, a sociologist professor took her class to the hallowed shrine of AiG's Creation Massacree Museum. Then she had the ill grace to write it up. Here's her article.
Creation Museum Creates Discomfort For Some Visitors

Kentucky's Creation Museum, a facility devoted to the belief that Earth and the universe are only 6,000 years old, is usually viewed in one of two ways: As a fun place where fundamentalist Christians can go to reaffirm their beliefs, or as the epicenter of a worldview ripe for mockery by scientists.

Now, a new analysis argues that for people already alienated by religious fundamentalism, the museum can be a painful reminder of discrimination and isolation.

The study, presented Sunday at the American Sociological Association meeting in Atlanta, took place over three in-depth visits to the museum over a year and a half. Bernadette Barton, a professor of sociology at Morehead State University in Kentucky, toured exhibits, attended museum lectures, observed museum guests and led a student field trip to the museum.

In her analysis, she argues that despite the museum's mission to reach out to believers and skeptics alike, the Creation Museum can be uncomfortable for non-fundamentalist visitors. [Discussion: Does science condemn God?]

Well, the less than thick-skinned Genesis-grinders at the "museum" ain't havin' none o' that shit, so they double-clutched their apologetics engine into granny gear and came up with the following whine:
On Wednesday, the popular LiveScience.com site posted a commentary that slammed the Creation Museum with blatant untruths, misinformation, and anti-Christian bigotry. The LiveScience commentary has also been picked up by such highly visited news websites like MSNBC, Yahoo News, etc. As such, it became necessary for the Creation Museum and Answers in Genesis to respond to the hit piece.

On Thursday, we posted a brief yet thorough rebuttal of the commentary’s major errors (see Live(ly) Science Debate). Our article today is a point-by-point exposé of all the errors and misrepresentations made by both the senior writer of LiveScience and the college instructor, whose research about the museum formed the basis of the LiveScience commentary. Our hope is that our response will encourage editors and management at news organizations to do a better job of fact-checking. (Note: the original article is indented with a different color font; our responses are in black.)

I won't quote much of the feedback, but I can't resist a little. Like the author(s), I will do the red/black thing:

Kentucky's Creation Museum,

Actually, it is Answers in Genesis’s Creation Museum that is in Kentucky, along with other sites in the state a such as Fort Knox, the Corvette Museum, the Original KFC, the Kentucky Derby, etc.

a facility devoted to the belief that Earth and the universe are only 6,000 years old,

To be precise, we are devoted to biblical authority (i.e., God is the ultimate authority, not mankind). As a corollary of this, we are convinced that the age of the universe and earth are around 6,000 years old. (Please see How old is the earth?) Dr. Lisle had previously informed this journalist that the focus of the Museum is biblical authority; it is a shame she decided to ignore this fact.

is usually viewed in one of two ways: As a fun place where fundamentalist Christians can go to reaffirm their beliefs, or as the epicenter of a worldview ripe for mockery by scientists.

Of course, mockery is no substitute for a logical argument. We have found that many secularists resort to mockery since they can find no logically legitimate basis for criticizing the Creation Museum. In fact, there are many scientists who support the museum, and the Creation Museum employs several PhD scientists. So, the author’s implication that scientists mock the museum is a sweeping generalization fallacy.

Now, a new analysis argues that for people already alienated by religious fundamentalism, the museum can be a painful reminder of discrimination and isolation.

The Creation Museum welcomes all people as long as they are willing to behave themselves. We had a group of nearly 300 atheists visit last year, and a group of secular geologists also visited the Museum. They were welcomed. Many of our critics have been far more fair than this reporter; they have said that they were well-treated. Many enjoyed the beautiful exhibits. Christians have a moral obligation to treat all people with respect and dignity since all humans are made in the image of God. We honor this principle at the Creation Museum.

However, from an evolutionary perspective, why would discrimination be wrong? Do animals get in trouble and go to jail for discriminating (e.g., a crocodile that eats young wildebeests)? And what about pain? Does an animal care if it inflicts pain on the animal it is killing? Of course not. From an evolutionary perspective there is no basis for fair treatment of people. So the critic’s objection (if it were true) would make no sense.

The study, presented Sunday at the American Sociological Association meeting in Atlanta, took place over three in-depth visits to the museum over a year and a half. Bernadette Barton, a professor of sociology at Morehead State University in Kentucky, toured exhibits, attended museum lectures, observed museum guests and led a student field trip to the museum.

One might expect that an avowed feminist and evolutionist with a history of being anti-Christian would arrive at conclusions—based on her worldview—that attack Christianity.

Here, lemmee give you a hanky.....




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Posted - 08/21/2010 :  07:21:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe there should be an organized campaign to write up as many similar reports as we can, keep the bastards so busy replying that they won't be able to go for a pee.

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