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Starman
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Posted - 08/23/2010 :  04:22:27  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in web furore over Swedish rape claim
The Swedish Prosecution Authority todaysaid an "on-call" prosecutor issued an arrest warrant for Assange late on Friday, only to see it revoked the next day by a higher-ranked prosecutor who found no grounds to suspect him of rape.


Rape warrant against Wikileaks founder Julian Assange cancelled
Assange wrote: "The charges are without basis and their issue at this moment is deeply disturbing."

Earlier postings on the Twitter account implied the accusations were part of a dirty tricks campaign against the Wikileaks founder, who has been strongly criticised by the Pentagon.


Seems very convenient.
Thoughts?

Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
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Posted - 08/23/2010 :  06:55:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Of course it's the Pentagon behind it. The guy needs to be discredited whatever the cost.
It's not paranoia is they are really out to get you. Seriously, the fact that the arrest warrant was revoked the very next speaks volumes. We need to have an investigation into if the first prosecutor was tricked or coerced into issue that arrest in the first place. It smells fishy to high heaven.

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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 08/23/2010 :  07:09:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well I here assange is on "Team Edward", AKA "Team Commie Pinko Traitor"!

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Starman
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Sweden
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Posted - 08/24/2010 :  07:13:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't think we can call this a conspiracy at this moment. A superstar with inflated ego seems to be a better explanation at this point.

One of the accusers seems to be a Swedish politician who invited Assange to a seminar and worked pro bono for him during his visit to Sweden.


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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 08/24/2010 :  11:00:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I haven't read anything more about it in Swedish media yet. Something a coworker said about it made me think this was more a case of misunderstanding.

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energyscholar
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Posted - 10/01/2012 :  16:29:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send energyscholar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, if and when people on this forum (Skeptic Friends Network) want to know more about this topic (Wikileaks, Julian Assange, conspiracies to leak secrets) I would be pleased to share what I know. I have detailed first-hand knowledge of some aspects of these topics.

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sailingsoul
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Posted - 10/01/2012 :  19:42:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by energyscholar

Hey, if and when people on this forum (Skeptic Friends Network) want to know more about this topic (Wikileaks, Julian Assange, conspiracies to leak secrets) I would be pleased to share what I know. I have detailed first-hand knowledge of some aspects of these topics.
What do you know your willing to share? You might want to tread lightly until you know the room, just saying. Welcome to SFN, energyscholar.

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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 10/02/2012 :  01:25:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What were the exact circumstances of this rape? I heard differing accounts.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 10/02/2012 :  12:00:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

What were the exact circumstances of this rape? I heard differing accounts.

There usually are during these circumstances.
Also there are aparently two cases, but I've only read details about one of them:
Assange and Sofia (one of the women accusing him of rape) had protected sex several times before the situation where they had sex without condom. It wasn't until three days later upon insistance from her friends she decided that the last intercourse was rape.
During her statements to the police (on which the first prosecutor decided to not charge Assange), she herself describes the situation like Assange nagged her into having unprotected sex. Nowhere in the protocols does she say he forced her.
An analysis of Sofia's statements to the police can be read in this link (original in Swedish, I couldn't get a link from SFN though Google Translate, so you'll have to plug it in yourself manually. The machine translation is fair, but consistently mis-translate the Swedish word for sex as the word 'six' because they are homonyms.)

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/02/2012 :  12:15:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wikipedia appears to have a fair discussion of the events surrounding the rape allegations, with numerous references.

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