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the_ignored
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 Posted - 12/23/2010 : 03:58:57
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The review of Creation Ministries International's Darwin: The Voyage that Shook the World is found here.
Each major claim of the movie is dissected. For example, one of the favourite claims of creationists of any stripe is to associate Darwin with racism:
Claim: Darwin believed that some races were inferior to the white race, which predisposed him to believe that some humans did not come from the same source.
Hutchinson: “This was the predominant view of many people worldwide at the time and probably since the dawn of human culture. It is a classic historiographic error to judge people of the past by today’s standards and not the standards of their time. It is thus no surprise that Darwin had some views that some today might consider racist. But compared against the cultural norm of the time Darwin was actually progressive, e.g. in disfavoring slavery.”
Charlesworth: “Darwin in fact proposed that all humans originated in Africa from a common ancestor with chimps and gorillas. Modern research in paleontology and genetics has confirmed this view, with many fossil intermediates between apes and humans, and a high degree of DNA sequence similarity among modern humans that shows that they shared a common ancestor much more recently than their common ancestor with apes. Given the record of racism and slave-ownership among creationist Christians in the U.S. and elsewhere, it is unfair to point to some remarks of Darwin about inferior races. In his autobiography, Darwin mentions his friendship with a black taxidermist in Edinburgh, whom he describes as an intelligent and pleasant person, and of course he abhorred slavery.” |
That last could have really come in useful in my dealing with Sarfati; he harped about the "racism" of "Darwinism". Oh well. I only had so much time before I would get shut down.
I liked some of the reviews.
If you read the review, you'll notice a certain stunt that CMI people pulled with the scientists that they were interviewing. Here's a hint: It's what the "Expelled" people did to the scientists that they interviewed.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
Edited by - the_ignored on 12/23/2010 04:19:34
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/23/2010 : 04:57:45 [Permalink]
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That's been laid on Sarfati by numerous people including myself at TheologyWeb (before I was sent away in disgrace). It simply either bounces off him or inspires him to play a greater fool. Or both.
Arguing with Sarfati is rather like wrestling a pig in the sty slops. You both get covered with pigshit, but the pig likes it.
That was an interesting article. It nicely points up the YEC's great problem; they are hamstrung by that long debunked, 6,000-year-old-Earth assumption and can't let go of it. The only thing they have going for them is a bone-headeed stubborness that, really, could be put to better use than bamboozling the public.
A sincere lie is a lie nevertheless.
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and Crypto-Communist! 
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Review of CMI's "Darwin" movie.
