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the_ignored
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 Posted - 12/25/2010 : 03:32:59
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I, of course, being edumacated and not from the States, already knew all of this:
 
| So while Christian crusaders were beheading enemies and tossing their heads like oversized hacky sacks, their Muslim counterparts had a whole honor code that led them to feed the armies of their defeated enemies. |
And historically, they have a hell of a track record. Science and math as we know it wouldn't even exist without Islam. The Islamic Golden Age caused a revolution in virtually every field of human thought, during which they fucking invented algebra -- and advanced everything from geography and exploration to the arts, architecture, philosophy, urban development, medicine and health.
The Muslims actually came pretty damn close to sharing all this brilliance with the truly ass-backward kingdoms of Christian Europe, since the Islamic caliphates blanketed every country they conquered with schools, libraries, public works and the most comprehensive system of social welfare on the planet. In fact, the case has been made that if the caliphates succeeded in conquering all of Europe an Italian Renaissance would have been unnecessary. |
How far a culture has fallen, eh?
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
Edited by - the_ignored on 12/25/2010 04:36:39
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
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Posted - 12/25/2010 : 15:41:25 [Permalink]
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| The Islamic Golden Age caused a revolution in virtually every field of human thought, during which they fucking invented algebra |
Not exactly true.
From Wikipedia: | Hellenistic mathematician Diophantus lived in Alexandria and is often considered to be the "father of algebra", writes his famous Arithmetica, a work featuring solutions of algebraic equations and on the theory of numbers. |
I will conscede that Arabic scholars compiled a lot of work from all over the world, and continued expanding algebra from there, but much was done before that. And not necessarily because of Islam, but because of scholars.
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the_ignored
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Posted - 12/25/2010 : 21:18:30 [Permalink]
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| True enough, I'll concede that. |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/25/2010 : 22:15:34 [Permalink]
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It is a mistake to say that "islam" is responsible for those things. It'd be like saying christianity is responsible for the renaissance just because that was the prevailing religion of the time.
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-- Thomas Jefferson
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the_ignored
SFN Addict
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Posted - 12/26/2010 : 04:11:39 [Permalink]
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| That doesn't stop the christian apologists though; hence this post. |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Machi4velli
SFN Regular
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Posted - 01/01/2011 : 00:01:35 [Permalink]
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The Greeks mostly dealt with algebraic problems geometrically, which I'm not sure we would really call algebra in the sense we all know now. They were very limited to the types of problems they could solve, and didn't really have too many generalized methods for large classes of problems, but had to come up with a new strategy for most every problem.
Assuming the works actually belong to the credited people, I think it's fair to give Persians credit for creating algebra. The generality of Khwarizmi feels much more significant to me in creating the foundations of a much more useful body of knowledge.
Don't forget Brahmagupta in India as well, he had some nice results, like a limited form of the quadratic equation. Also more general and useful than much of the work of Diophantus.
It is true that much of the work in the "Islamic Golden Age" was just interpretation of Greek works. It shouldn't be blown out of proportion, but they did learn many good things in the period. Something they definitely invented is cryptanalysis (al-Kindi), which is really the earliest usage of probability I have ever heard of. |
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking
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| Edited by - Machi4velli on 01/01/2011 00:17:25 |
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