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CRUX
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Posted - 09/24/2011 :  17:50:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by justintime

Originally posted by CRUX

Originally posted by justintime

Why did you spring up swine flu...there was no mention of it here.




Because you are getting worked up over the fact that "HPV" has the word "Human" in it. As if the name means it is only ever found in that species named.


To say you are not sure whether or not HPV can infect other species and have the result of cancer.

You already made the wrong assumption about HPV as mentioned here It is a Human papillomavirus(HPV).



you've incorrectly quoted me, haven't you ? What assumption are you going to claim that I made ?



So you did not know that the HPV is specific to humans.
Here let me educate you. The H is HPV is significant because there are different letter designations for the papillomavirus depending on the type of host it affects.

Some examples to help you.

Human papillomavirus (HPV) --is capable of infecting humans.
cottontail rabbit papilloma virus (CRPV)It infects rabbits
Bovine papillomavirus (BPV)that are common in cattle.

CRUX wrote
Using your absolutely bizarro reasoning, there is no possible benefit from vaccinations of humans, against such items as swine flu.


Here is CRUX again confusing HPV a STD vaccine to swine flu.
Rubbish. People can get Swine flu even thought the name is "Swine" . and they can get Avian flu, even thought he name says "Avian".

You attempted several times to say that since the name contained "HUMAN" in it, it's preposterous to think that other species could get it.

You're way out there, bud.

You need to be sure of at least what HPV before venturing into some wild speculation.
Note the Human in (HPV)
Human papilloma virus (HPV) (comprende!)


I repeat HPV the H stands for Human. Human papilloma virus affects humans. No need to speculate any further. Now you can be sure.


Of course, it can infect humans. You're trying another sleazy trick; to insinuate that I believe it does not infect humans.
However, in so doing, you expose your kooky belief - that the only species to get these, are the ones the virus is named after. You also try to say that I have the viruses confused. That is dishonest behaviour, Sir.

Here is CRUX again confusing HPV a STD vaccine to swine flu.


wow...what the heck does that mean in English ? HPV is a vaccine to swine flu. Wow.

It's plainly laughable; first showing extreme ignorance when making huge bold claims, then attempting to cover what happened, by spouting jibber-jabber.
Edited by - CRUX on 09/24/2011 17:57:53
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/24/2011 :  18:46:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I said:
Of course, I have no idea where justintime was trying to go with the whole STD argument, anyway.
That was your cue, justintime, to get off your losing "H stand for Human" argument and back to your bizarre rants on women's lib.

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justintime
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Posted - 09/24/2011 :  21:47:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send justintime a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

Originally posted by justintime

Originally posted by CRUX

Originally posted by justintime

Why did you spring up swine flu...there was no mention of it here.




Because you are getting worked up over the fact that "HPV" has the word "Human" in it. As if the name means it is only ever found in that species named.


To say you are not sure whether or not HPV can infect other species and have the result of cancer.

You already made the wrong assumption about HPV as mentioned here It is a Human papillomavirus(HPV).



you've incorrectly quoted me, haven't you ? What assumption are you going to claim that I made ?



So you did not know that the HPV is specific to humans.
Here let me educate you. The H is HPV is significant because there are different letter designations for the papillomavirus depending on the type of host it affects.

Some examples to help you.

Human papillomavirus (HPV) --is capable of infecting humans.
cottontail rabbit papilloma virus (CRPV)It infects rabbits
Bovine papillomavirus (BPV)that are common in cattle.

CRUX wrote
Using your absolutely bizarro reasoning, there is no possible benefit from vaccinations of humans, against such items as swine flu.


Here is CRUX again confusing HPV a STD vaccine to swine flu.
Rubbish. People can get Swine flu even thought the name is "Swine" . and they can get Avian flu, even thought he name says "Avian".

You attempted several times to say that since the name contained "HUMAN" in it, it's preposterous to think that other species could get it.

You're way out there, bud.

You need to be sure of at least what HPV before venturing into some wild speculation.
Note the Human in (HPV)
Human papilloma virus (HPV) (comprende!)


I repeat HPV the H stands for Human. Human papilloma virus affects humans. No need to speculate any further. Now you can be sure.


Of course, it can infect humans. You're trying another sleazy trick; to insinuate that I believe it does not infect humans.
However, in so doing, you expose your kooky belief - that the only species to get these, are the ones the virus is named after. You also try to say that I have the viruses confused. That is dishonest behaviour, Sir.

Here is CRUX again confusing HPV a STD vaccine to swine flu.


wow...what the heck does that mean in English ? HPV is a vaccine to swine flu. Wow.

It's plainly laughable; first showing extreme ignorance when making huge bold claims, then attempting to cover what happened, by spouting jibber-jabber.


You just don't get it even after I showed you the different types of host affected by the different types of the papillomavirus which is differentiated by the first letter designation. (HPV, BPV, CPV)

You also equivacate swine flu with HPV. One is a flu virus and the other can cause cancer. One is passed on through sexual contact (HPV) and the other through contact with infected pigs and human to human contact(coughing, sneezing).

You are confusing the two. One is a sexually transmitted disease a virus that can cause cancer and the other is a flu (influenza) virus.

There is no sleazy trick or any attempt to confuse you. You are doing that to yourself. You distort the message by truncating my words. Now that is your sleazy, deceptive, insecure approach you are forced to use because you don't know a better way to engage in an intelligent discussion. One would suspect your sole intentions is to win some brownie points here because it consoles you from an otherwise empty shallow welfare existence.

No one bothers to correct you because this is not where you get an education. You should have stayed in school and developed some character. It is quite obvious you are a very bitter person and even more bitter about being bitter.

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Kil
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Posted - 09/24/2011 :  21:53:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by justintime

There is no sleazy trick or any attempt to confuse you. You are doing that to yourself. You distort the message by truncating my words. Now that is your sleazy, deceptive, insecure approach you are forced to use because you don't know a better way to engage in an intelligent discussion. One would suspect your sole intentions is to win some brownie points here because it consoles you from an otherwise empty shallow welfare existence.

No one bothers to correct you because this is not where you get an education. You should have stayed in school and developed some character. It is quite obvious you are a very bitter person and even more bitter about being bitter.



Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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justintime
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  04:08:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send justintime a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

I said:
Of course, I have no idea where justintime was trying to go with the whole STD argument, anyway.
That was your cue, justintime, to get off your losing "H stand for Human" argument and back to your bizarre rants on women's lib.

Sorry it took time getting back to your post.

The H in HPV stands for Human as Human papillomavirus (HPV) It is a member of the papillomavirus family of viruses that is capable of infecting humans.

There are animal papillomavirus and are labeled differently base on the type of host it infects.
Cottontail rabbit papillomavirus (CRPV) Host rabbits.
Bovine papillomavirus (BPV) host cattle.
That is why to differenciate between humans, animals, different labels were used. HPV, CRPV, BPV.

This should not be confused with other types of labeling for known viruses that infect humans. Avian flu(Influenza A), swine flu(Influenza C ).

Avian flu uses a different naming convention.
There are many subtypes of avian influenza viruses, but only some strains of four subtypes have been highly pathogenic in humans. These are types H5N1, H7N3, H7N7 and H9N2.

Swine flu (Influenza C infect both humans and pigs.

I wasn't joking when I said H in HPV stands for Humans. That is the official name and reason it is labeled so.

The womens lib had a lot more to do with religion subjugation women. The point I was trying to make based on statistics where 80% of women will contact STD/HPV by the age of 50. In women it leads to cervical cancer and possible death.

The liberation of women in some cultures may not be that advantageous to women especially in a promiscuous world.

The traditional marriage institutions are crumbling which is leaving many more women single and unwed.

More women are pursuing careers and delaying child birth which causes some development problems in children. New study indicates.

For the above reasons and reasoning where women bear a higher burden in natural/medical complication. Does Natural Selection favor our modern liberated women.

It is easy to argue women who are denied, abused, left uneducated etc in more restrictive societies are a violation of human rights and the inequality of the sexes intolerable. But are the solutions creating some unintended consequences?

Example. Japanese woman graduates from Oxford returns to Japan, marries and accepts the role of the traditional Japanese wife. When asked why with her foreign education and the exposure to liberated women did she choose to follow the old ways. She replies. Yes it was all very nice. But it is hard for me to accept what is so novel and reject what has worked for centuries in my country.



Edited by - justintime on 09/27/2011 23:28:24
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jamalrapper
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Posted - 02/27/2012 :  17:16:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send jamalrapper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Justintime whoever you are. The fact is HPV affects women more than men. The guys responding are men. What the shit do men know or care if H stands for Human in HPV. Don't get too fucking technical with them. Alternating between oral and anal sex men have acquitted themselves.
Edited by - jamalrapper on 02/27/2012 17:22:35
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 02/27/2012 :  20:25:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by jamalrapper

Justintime whoever you are. The fact is HPV affects women more than men. The guys responding are men. What the shit do men know or care if H stands for Human in HPV. Don't get too fucking technical with them. Alternating between oral and anal sex men have acquitted themselves.
"Justintime whoever you are."

Nice, if rather stupidly, backfiringly obvious, red herring attempt to manufacture an alibi. SFN already knew jamalrapper is a sockpuppet for the guy who called himself justintime. This faked minor disagreement with himself is just further confirmation.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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ThomasPellet
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Posted - 02/28/2012 :  14:26:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ThomasPellet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

Originally posted by jamalrapper

Justintime whoever you are. The fact is HPV affects women more than men. The guys responding are men. What the shit do men know or care if H stands for Human in HPV. Don't get too fucking technical with them. Alternating between oral and anal sex men have acquitted themselves.
"Justintime whoever you are."

Nice, if rather stupidly, backfiringly obvious, red herring attempt to manufacture an alibi. SFN already knew jamalrapper is a sockpuppet for the guy who called himself justintime. This faked minor disagreement with himself is just further confirmation.


Don't worry about me bud. You dog eating midgets.
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 02/28/2012 :  23:18:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by ThomasPellet

Don't worry about me bud. You dog eating midgets.
Oooo! "Dog eating." The troll does do his research, at least on how to hurt.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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