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Dude
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Posted - 09/18/2011 :  20:53:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Originally posted by Officiant

Dear Dude, Help me out of my ignorance. I'm asking you again. Tell us how inductive argument shows that agnosticism is not pure garbage.
Did you finally work out an answer to your question?


I'm not here to educate you. Your ignorance is your problem, it also explains why you aren't able to participate in this conversation in any meaningful way.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Officiant
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166 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2011 :  10:18:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Officiant a Private Message
So Dude, I called your bluff. You obviously have nothing to offer. If you are not here to educate and inform just what the hell are you here for?
Are you just a troll? Aren't you the moron who said distributing Bibles was good for atheism? Here's some food for thought and you are starving
for a coherent thought.

Intelligent people more likely to be left-wing atheists
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 09/19/2011 :  11:49:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message
Deja vu.

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 09/19/2011 :  14:13:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Originally posted by Officiant

Intelligent people more likely to be left-wing atheists
www.tgdaily.com
How does "Facebook to tick social boxes with live content ticker" show that?

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Officiant
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Posted - 09/19/2011 :  14:51:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Officiant a Private Message
Intelligent people more likely to be left-wing atheists | TG Daily
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Intelligent people more likely to be left-wing atheists. Posted on February 25, 2010 - 07:25 by Jean Antonique. Tweet. Email. Share. Higher intelligence is ...
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Officiant
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166 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2011 :  14:55:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Officiant a Private Message
We are not agnostics.
We are not agnostics. We know that the various theisms are baseless prescientific mythologies, inherited from antiquity, and that their falsehood is a certainty beyond all reasonable doubt. from The Manifesto of Atheist Freethinkers aft.atheism.ca
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Officiant
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Posted - 09/19/2011 :  16:09:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Officiant a Private Message
Dear Kil, In reference to Falconjudge leaving Christianity you said, "Leaving a life long religion is a trauma, and I’m unwilling to beat him over the head with your crap, Officiant."

Would you please elaborate on that Kil? My read on the situation is that you consider our young friend is mentally too fragile for reality and atheism. Do you think he requires agnosticism and keeping his childish dependency on the supernatural a while longer or as Madalyn said a foot in the God camp??
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Officiant
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166 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2011 :  16:19:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Officiant a Private Message
Dear Kil, There is a similarity in your question, "Explain how you can conclude that there aren't fairies at the bottom of the garden?"
and Dude, "what is the test to prove there is a physical reality outside of your mind." Both are conundrums and neither claim is accompanied by sound or logical evidence.
This is in violation of the principles of critical thinking. Don't you agree?
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Officiant
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166 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2011 :  16:24:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Officiant a Private Message
Before you pull the pin on this thread Kil consider this.
If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.
--Noam Chomsky, (1928- )
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 09/19/2011 :  17:42:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Originally posted by Officiant

Before you pull the pin on this thread Kil consider this.
If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.
--Noam Chomsky, (1928- )
So you must believe in freedom of expression for Muslims, Officiant? Including their right to build mosques where they want?
We are not agnostics. We know that the various theisms are baseless prescientific mythologies, inherited from antiquity, and that their falsehood is a certainty beyond all reasonable doubt. from The Manifesto of Atheist Freethinkers aft.atheism.ca
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Kil
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Posted - 09/19/2011 :  19:28:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
Officiant:
Both are conundrums and neither claim is accompanied by sound or logical evidence.

For forty pages you have been denying that evidence is important. So why play an evidence card with regard to those particular questions? What are ya? Agnostic?
Officiant:
This is in violation of the principles of critical thinking. Don't you agree?

You're kidding... Right?

As for the rest of your questions, they have all been answered already. And I'm a bit disgusted that once again I took the time to reply to one of your posts, line by line, and you have completely ignored it. In any case, everything has been said. And when I do pull the pin on this thread, which will probably be tonight, you can interpret it anyway you like and to anyone who will listen to you. You are free to express yourself. I haven't the power to stop you.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project
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podcat
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435 Posts

Posted - 09/20/2011 :  03:28:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send podcat a Private Message
Hey, Dave, looks like the author of this study is Satoshi Kanazawa. You know,the guy who got dismissed from Psychology Today after he wrote the article "Why Are Black Women Rated Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kanazawa

“In a modern...society, everybody has the absolute right to believe whatever they damn well please, but they don't have the same right to be taken seriously”.

-Barry Williams, co-founder, Australian Skeptics
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pleco
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Posted - 09/20/2011 :  06:18:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message

by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart.
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Dave W.
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USA
26022 Posts

Posted - 09/20/2011 :  07:21:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Originally posted by podcat

Hey, Dave, looks like the author of this study is Satoshi Kanazawa. You know,the guy who got dismissed from Psychology Today after he wrote the article "Why Are Black Women Rated Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kanazawa
Sheesh. I didn't even pay attention to the article, I was just laughing at Officiant's link incompetence. Besides, any time a far right-winger like him points to "liberal" stuff, it's just to try to use it as a cudgel, not because they think it has value by itself. Chomsky? Really? Officiant couldn't possibly be trying to make a serious point, there.

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Officiant
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166 Posts

Posted - 09/20/2011 :  08:20:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Officiant a Private Message
Dear Kil, Once again you use the already answered ploy to avoid answering questions. Why not copy and paste the answer or refer to a page number so it can be presented again?
Obviously you are avoiding answering the question. Using the word shit like you did is not an explanation.

It is legitimate to refer to authorities and I have presented you with many. You even agree that science shows the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God does not exist. Now your concern is with the fairies at the bottom of the garden. Clear those up and you will still believe in Santa Claus or Wiccans. Where are your authorities? The fact that Thomas Huxley supported placing the holy word of God, the Bible, in schools should be a stake in the heart of agnosticism. Of course for those without intellectual integrity agnosticism is comfortable and you can imagine the arms of God keeping you safe and secure.

You have been hiding behind the ambiguity of agnosticism for many years. For you to admit you are wrong would necessitate admitting you are a pseudo-intellectual coward.
Agnostics do support the God hypothesis. Atheists do not.
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