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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/28/2011 :  10:51:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What makes you think that he is "new age", what is classified as New Age? For all we know he might be an expert in the philosophy of Buddhism or the works of Carl Jung. If that is true would that classify him as "new age"?
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/28/2011 :  10:52:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And if your a wicca, surly youwould understand a little bit of this or be more prone to new age ideas and believe in them. Unless you really are some kind of devil worshipper. How many kids do you have? Are you planning to sacrifice your kids?
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/28/2011 :  11:09:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

What makes you think that he is "new age", what is classified as New Age? For all we know he might be an expert in the philosophy of Buddhism or the works of Carl Jung. If that is true would that classify him as "new age"?


Not New Age, newage. Rhymes with sewage. Takes New Age concepts such as personal energy, interconnectedness of nature, Eastern philosophies and adds conspiratorial tones, vast government coverups, and divinely revealed information.

Philosophy is not science.

He acts like a fraud. I've read Jung's work. This ain't it either. Not by a long shot.

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/28/2011 :  11:13:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

And if your a wicca, surly youwould understand a little bit of this or be more prone to new age ideas and believe in them. Unless you really are some kind of devil worshipper. How many kids do you have? Are you planning to sacrifice your kids?


Boy, you really don't know thing one about Wicca, do you.

I do understand the new age ideas that they are misusing and abusing. Belief is unrelated to what can be proven or examined by science.

Spare me the devil worshipping bullshit and the ritual child sacrifice that DOESN'T FUCKING HAPPEN ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD!!!!!

Do tell us when you are going to join this cult of whackjobs. I'd like first crack at your possessions when the cult leader demands that you throw off all your worldly possessions to become "one of the initiated". Might get a few bucks on E-bay or something for them.

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/28/2011 :  11:31:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ooooooooooh... now lets not get frisky here. Just becuase your planning on having your kids to sacrifice does not mean you should get stroppy when its pointed out.
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/28/2011 :  11:36:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

Originally posted by flanagan1000

What makes you think that he is "new age", what is classified as New Age? For all we know he might be an expert in the philosophy of Buddhism or the works of Carl Jung. If that is true would that classify him as "new age"?


Not New Age, newage. Rhymes with sewage. Takes New Age concepts such as personal energy, interconnectedness of nature, Eastern philosophies and adds conspiratorial tones, vast government coverups, and divinely revealed information.

Philosophy is not science.

He acts like a fraud. I've read Jung's work. This ain't it either. Not by a long shot.


But I thought skeptics rejected all concepts such as the ones you described. If I went to James Randi and started going on about the interconnections of earth, he would say I'm talking a load of baloney.

So how can I take you seriously as a skeptic if you believed in all of this. You should be accepting what David Anderson is saying we glee. Also you would believe that there is a hall of records in Romania that leads to Inner Earth. I mean you call me gullible, but you believe in Wicca and its child sacrificing and devil rituals.
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Hal
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Posted - 10/28/2011 :  11:45:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Hal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

I mean you call me gullible, but you believe in Wicca and its child sacrificing and devil rituals.


OK, so you're peeved at VD for calling this shit what it is. Whatever. But now you've got me curious - what is the origin of your conflation of "Wicca" and "child sacrificing and devil rituals"? I admit don't know much (at all) about Wicca, but I've certainly never heard that charge. What do you know that I don't? References?

Edited by - Hal on 10/28/2011 11:45:42
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/28/2011 :  11:55:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Isn't it what all pagan religions are like.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/28/2011 :  12:01:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

Originally posted by flanagan1000

What makes you think that he is "new age", what is classified as New Age? For all we know he might be an expert in the philosophy of Buddhism or the works of Carl Jung. If that is true would that classify him as "new age"?


Not New Age, newage. Rhymes with sewage. Takes New Age concepts such as personal energy, interconnectedness of nature, Eastern philosophies and adds conspiratorial tones, vast government coverups, and divinely revealed information.

Philosophy is not science.

He acts like a fraud. I've read Jung's work. This ain't it either. Not by a long shot.


But I thought skeptics rejected all concepts such as the ones you described. If I went to James Randi and started going on about the interconnections of earth, he would say I'm talking a load of baloney.

So how can I take you seriously as a skeptic if you believed in all of this. You should be accepting what David Anderson is saying we glee. Also you would believe that there is a hall of records in Romania that leads to Inner Earth. I mean you call me gullible, but you believe in Wicca and its child sacrificing and devil rituals.


Yup.

Completely ignorant about Wicca. Completely clueless. Try educating yourself on a subject before you spout something so completely false.

Doesn't surprise me that you fall for Moon and Andersons bullshit.

Doesn't surprise me that you don't understand the difference about belief and what can be proven. Anderson misapplies these concepts in a way that Wiccans would reject as the work of someone ignorant of the concepts themselves.

I call you gullible because you blindly believe people who claim special knowledge.

Again, newage is the sub-culture which has incomplete understanding of New age concepts and applies them through "divine" guidance or information gleaned from sources "on the astral plane". Even within Wicca, these people are regarded as uneducated in the ways of the religion.

And none of them (newage or New Age) practice any sort of animal or human sacrifice. You are thinking of the animal sacrifice of Santeria or Voodun. Santeria and Voodun do not have human sacrifice in them either.

I've heard this particular charge of Wicca=Satanism=child sacrifice for quite a while. It was wrong now and was wrong then. The government conducted multiple studies in the 1980's and 1990's and found out that Satanic Ritual Abuse of children did not exist. The sources for the stories were Evangelicals who had changed the child sacrifice charges that were leveled against Christians, lepers, Jews, Catholics, and other groups to Wiccans without any evidence what-so-ever.

But none of these absurd charges change the fraud that Moon and Anderson are.

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Hal
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Posted - 10/28/2011 :  12:02:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Hal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

Isn't it what all pagan religions are like.


I don't know. Is it? I'm asking you, what is the basis for your assertion?
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/28/2011 :  12:10:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

Isn't it what all pagan religions are like.
Do you even know what the word "pagan" means?

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/28/2011 :  12:23:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pagan are religions that were practise before mordern day Christianity.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/28/2011 :  12:50:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

Pagan are religions that were practise before mordern day Christianity.


Ah. Then the term does not apply to Wicca which was founded in the early 1890's. Well after Christianity was around. While based on the old religions, they are not the old religions.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/28/2011 :  12:56:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

Pagan are religions that were practise before mordern day Christianity.
Nope. But if that's your understanding of the word, you're actually claiming that Buddhists are Satan-worshipping child sacrificers. And Sikhs.

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Fripp
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Posted - 10/28/2011 :  13:02:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wait a minute... wait a minute... Oh, I'm sorry, I thought I felt a consciousness download, but it was only gas.

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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