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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/21/2011 :  07:38:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Becuase this is bit different then someone thinking god is talking to them or that the raputre is apon us. This mixes occult, 666, Crowley, rituals, bril. Everything!
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Originally posted by flanagan1000

Becuase this is bit different then someone thinking god is talking to them or that the raputre is apon us. This mixes occult, 666, Crowley, rituals, bril. Everything!


Oh, well in that case...




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Originally posted by flanagan1000

Becuase this is bit different then someone thinking god is talking to them or that the raputre is apon us. This mixes occult, 666, Crowley, rituals, bril. Everything!


Yet it means nothing.

Crap dressed up in the occult is still crap.

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Posted - 10/21/2011 :  08:10:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But this Jarl Vidar keeps goigon about brining on a new Aeon, you can find it all over the place, such as the actual Thule website:

http://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=site:thule-gesellschaft.org%2F+%22jarl+vidar%22&pbx=1&oq=site:thule-gesellschaft.org%2F+%22jarl+vidar%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=3038l7847l1l8007l13l12l0l0l0l0l173l1128l7.5l12l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=77a2c99cc24530ed&biw=1680&bih=905

Look at this Wes Penre nblog that talks about it. Opening stargates, gods ect:

http://www.wespenre.com/marduk-issue-and-the-earth-bound-anunnaki.htm

Likewise, I knew very little about the Thule Society, their goals, and why they are doing what they are doing. I simply knew too little about our ancient history and the visits of the gods. Yes, I had read the "Gods of Eden" by William Bramley, and Sitchin's "The 12th Planet", but now I have plowed through more or less the whole "Earth Chronicles" by Sitchin, and studied other sources as well on the subject, and believe I've nailed it down quite well. This new knowledge puts the Thule in a whole new perspective. So let us contemplate a little bit on this.

Jarl Vidar, the German Thule member, at one time wanted to use me because I am a musician. He wanted me to create a piece of music within certain guidelines and frequencies to open up the stargate to let the gods in. He was of course talking about the Anunnaki ''gods'', who come from Nibiru. One of the purposes of the Thule Order is to help with the transition of the gods when they leave their home planet and come down to Earth; giant beings, armed and ready. Then, Vidar is talking about the Battle of Armageddon, which will happen so that the Earth can be cleansed. He further told me that many, many people will die in the process, but when it's over, there will be Paradise on Earth, where a selected few of the Nibiruans will rule us for another 1,000 years, in peace and harmony, so we can learn how to govern ourselves.

As we can see, this is very similar to LPG-C's perspective, although the Thule is supporting both sides of the conflict, and I will tell you why in a moment.

Hitler saw this whole Nibiru/Marduk issue coming; he was in contact with them mind-to-mind, and he saw how they looked like, and he was terrified. He worked towards the goal of creating the Anunnaki Kingdom, but it was too much for him to handle. It drove him insane and he started acting out in a very destructive manner (some say that Hitler worked with the Dracos and the Grays, and it may very well be that those who showed themselves to him were Reptilian in nature, but still working for the Anunnaki).

Jarl Vidar, who is presently working in tight connection with Michael Noel Prescott, and together they have started a new branch of the Thule, which will embrace the New Aeon of the Anunnaki, is determined to follow the original protocols of the old prophecies. Jarl told me that the old Thule is still stuck in the Old Aeon, but he and Michael are here to introduce the new one.

Jarl is often talking about Shamballa, the old city underground. He says he's been there several times and met with the beings down there. He describes them as very gentle and loving, and they have lived there for a long time. They now need help, in different ways, from humans to support them in their mission; some of them are reptoids. They probably also need strong, psychic humans, who can survive the End Times (Thule is all about Prophecy). This is the reason for the Triple Helix program; it's one way of connecting with the gods, and communicate with them. There are other, better ways, but it requires a lot of training, and the Triple Helix will probably do as surrogate until better ways of communicating can be established. We will talk about "Topological Thinking" in another Paper.

Jarl recently wrote on my FaceBook wall that J.R.R. Tolkien was well aware of what is going on, and had actually been to Shamballa himself and met with the gods. I wouldn't be surprised, because it reflects in his Middle Earth books. Jarl also wants to take me down there whenever we get the chance, but I may opt out on that one.

Jarl's only concern is to have the prophecies fulfilled. When I wrote the Supriem book, people were wondering why Jarl didn't care whether those he worked with supported Marduk or the incoming Ša.A.M.i., but it makes sense, because he wants to bring about the Battle of Armageddon so that the world can be cleansed. He wants the war to happen, because he believes it's imperative for us to be able to create the New Aeon; the New Earth, which will be Paradise, where the "gods" will rule for 1,000 years in peace and harmony. Jarl is purposely trying to create the conflict necessary before the Nibiruans arrive and the Battle can begin. Those who survive the "wrath of the gods" will be highly rewarded. A new Phoenix will rise from the ashes.

And we are still supposed to believe the incoming Ša.A.M.i. are here for us?

Jarl, loyal to his mission, is hooking up with Michael Prescott, who is a very dark person, because he believes Prescott is important for prophecy to be fulfilled. Prescott is using Mardukian Magic when he is trying to achieve their goals (Mardukian Magic being that given to us by Aleister Crowley, John Dee and others). The Thule and Jarl Vidar are not the only ones working furiously to make prophecy fulfilled; most secret societies are, in their own way.

We know from my LPG-C sources that the incoming Ša.A.M.i. can be very loving and gentle, but also quite cruel. They have no second thoughts about killing off anybody who is not supporting the Kingdom, or is on Marduk's side. It sounds reasonable, perhaps, for many who have suffered because of Global Elite policies and suppressive acts like war, mind control, torture, rape, and all the rest of it. But the Nibiruans also make it very clear that if you side with Marduk in any shape or form, you will not be forgiven and killed when they come; and your future generations will be punished for your deeds! Why do you think that is? Because they want to free us from Marduk's suppression? No, these gods want to implement their own laws, rules and policies on us humans here on Earth and make us part of the Kingdom. They are conquerors, and by "cleansing" the Earth, killing off anyone who opposes them, what remains is a new generation of obedient sheep. Do they want to terminate the bloodlines of those who supported Marduk, because their future generations can become future rebels? I am not signing up for that even though I'm not supporting Marduk.

Now, it doesn't impress me when we talk about "imperatives" here. When I discuss this matter with LPG-C scientists, they are not foreign to the idea, saying that this is the Ša.A.M.i. way of handling things, because it's in their nature. That doesn't make them "evil". In a sense, this is true; it's enough to look at our own human race to see how we solve our own problems, but the question is in that case, what are their imperatives? To me it's quite obvious. However, I am looking forward to a future in peace and harmony, where people slowly but surely raise their frequencies to overcome urges like war, revenge, and killing, for any given reason. If we welcome a species who are using the same violent policies that we do now, here on Earth, it is not helpful for humanity's growth. And it's certainly not in our interest to be part of the Kingdom.

Apparently, we are facing a war of huge proportions, where the Mardukian Anunnaki, together with the Global Elite and their foot soldiers (which could be you, your brother or your neighbor), will be furiously fighting the Giants who are coming down here, fully armed, perhaps even with nuclear power We humans, as usual, are caught between, and we are the ones who are going to suffer the most; speaking of population reduction! It really doesn't matter if the war between the incoming and Marduk's branch are real opponents or if it's just staged, we humans are still caught in between.

Then comes the execution patrol. If you sided with the Global Elite and fought on the wrong side, wittingly or unwittingly, you're going to be killed, and your future generations will be punished. Can you believe what kind of karma all this will create here on Earth? And we thought the old Atlantean karma is bad? Not mentioning all the trauma it will create in everyone living here; we all will lose people we love and know well in this final Battle of the Gods. In other words; once again, they bring down their wars here on Earth--"as above, so below".

I am told there is not much we can do about the fact the Nibiruans are coming! And that they are angry! Not at us, supposedly, but at the ones who enslaved us the last couple of millennia. Yes, the incoming are siding with us, but what are the end game? We know what the Bible prophecy says and that's what is played out before our eyes. However, we need to realize that prophecy is either "predictions" made by those who want to enslave us so that we think it's predestined and set in stone, and sometimes prophecy is to warn us about what is ahead if we don't change our ways of acting and thinking. We will discuss workable solutions in the "Soulution Papers". The Pleiadians said we are a very unpredictable race, so let's prove them right!

Because of Prophecy, Jarl became very interested in Supriem. He knew Supriem was not Marduk, but had the manisola of all these different gods. And for any given reason, those who put the manisola (the life force) in Supriem's body, gave him a choice which faction of the Anunnaki to side with. Supriem has gone back and forth on his decision whom to serve, but has more recently sided with Marduk again, as it seems. For Jarl's purposes, as we discussed earlier, it doesn't matter which side SDR (Supriem David Rockefeller) is on.

Jarl Vidar probably means well, but he is playing with inter-dimensional forces he doesn't fully understand, and in his effort to fulfill prophecy, he needs to get in touch with the black arts. After a while, a person who plays both sides in a game where these both sides are destructive, it will certainly cloud one's mind and will backfire. Jarl says that the stargate is open and ready for the gods to enter. I don't know if this is true or not, but it doesn't matter. The gods are coming within the next 50-90 years. We are living through the introduction stage of the "Tribulation" right now, waiting for the gods to arrive (The Battle of Armageddon), and after that we are facing a 1000 years of "Heaven on Earth" (some say 3,600 years, which is not according to prophecy), but Heaven on Earth, in my opinion, can only be achieved without the gods.

In the ancient past, while the original Anunnaki were still here on Earth, in charge of we humans, there were periods where there was peace on Earth and people lived happily and in harmony with these creator gods, but it never lasted. The warrior instinct, the jealousy, the power hunger, the great egos of the gods always came to the surface sooner or later, and conflicts and wars broke out again. Personally, I am tired of this kind of past/present/future. I want something better for mankind--I want total sovereignty. We can do it without having the gods show us how to change our own diapers. I know I can do it (and I'm human), so why can't you, and the rest of us? Yes, we have warrior instincts, too, because we are of the same genetics as the gods, but we are still different. We have something they don't have; we have strong emotions. We need to learn how to tame them, but once we do, we are heading for the stars all by ourselves, by connecting via thought and emotion to our Oversouls. The strength and the answers how to become a galactic citizen doesn't come from warrior races. Already before we were tampered with by this Sirian race, we had something they lacked; something Ea apparently was quite impressed by: we had compassion! Perhaps the reader remembers from a previous paper, how the early, "primitive"(?) apes (homo erectus) sneaked up on Ea and opened his traps, so captured animals that were meant for food for Ea could run free again. Even though the Anunnaki genes are added to these compassionate forefathers of ours, compassion is a strong trait still in humans; it is even pre-dominant! It never left us, and it is there to serve us into becoming multi-dimensional and galactic citizens. Maybe one day we can turn this around and be the teachers instead of the students. Perhaps we have a lot of traits we need to teach the Sirian Ša.A.M.i.? Technologically, we are far behind them, but spiritually we are ahead of them. Do they need us? Perhaps. After all, for Ea to distinguish the emotion of compassion in us he must have felt compassion too, deep inside. Perhaps it was we who taught him how to be more compassionate, and that's why he saved mankind on a few occasions? But in general, do we need them? Not at this point.

What about the Global Elite? Yes, they are here because we need to manage our fear. I have grown out of them. I don't fear them at all; I don't fear Marduk, and I don't fear the Incoming. But I love this planet, and I love the idea of a Living Library. I am also willing to welcome peaceful ETs to visit and trade with us. They give us what we need and we give them what they need. I am not talking about a TTP (Technology Transfer Program) which the government has set up with certain ETs today; I am talking about resources. Food we're growing; minerals, water, supplies. This is what is already happening out there in the Universe every day. But we are not included, because we haven't learned how to manage our fear. We are still in the destructive hands of the few, and as long as we are, we will stay in quarantine to protect the off-planet species.

A new planet, which vibrates on a much higher frequency than the old Earth? Is that possible? Yes, Jarl, it is! Absolutely! But it can't be achieved by fulfilling prophecies that were made up by the gods who have power and control as their main attribute with intentions to absorb us into their Kingdom. No, we need to claim sovereignty over our biokind and this planet. We do so by creating a new one by our own efforts; not to play out the gods against each other--again(!)

The Pleiadian said in one of their more recent lectures that there are groups here on Earth who are working with, around, or alongside with prophecy, and some of these groups are working hard to make these prophecies come true. I am aware of 5 groups working with any of the above. They are, The Thule; LPG-C; the WingMakers; The Corteum and the Labyrinth Group; and S.A.A.L.M. The three latter groups we will cover in detail as well in the few upcoming papers.

What the human race needs is education. We can't gather around certain imperatives if we don't know the options. This is the sole reason I am writing all these papers. Mankind needs to know what's going on so we can make proper decisions, or we'll be caught up in something which will be our demise as a species in the long run--we will end up as cyborgs in a high tech Machine

And look at this email conversation he had:


https://mailman.jlab.org/pipermail/primex/2010-February/000074.html
But that does not explain the occult talks. The Ordero f the Nine Angels. Reinrnated gods. All of this is something that skeptics like you have never seen before.
Edited by - flanagan1000 on 10/21/2011 08:12:36
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Originally posted by flanagan1000

But this Jarl Vidar keeps goigon about brining on a new Aeon, you can find it all over the place, such as the actual Thule website:
And look at this email conversation he had:


https://mailman.jlab.org/pipermail/primex/2010-February/000074.html
But that does not explain the occult talks. The Ordero f the Nine Angels. Reinrnated gods. All of this is something that skeptics like you have never seen before.


?????

Who is Jarl Vidar and why should we care what he thinks?

Occult talks?

Skeptics like us have never seen such things?

OK, show of hands. Who has read the "Call of Chthulu" by H. P. Lovecraft?

Oooooo. a bunch of us.

Yes, we've heard it before. It's still crap.

And don't start with the Necromonicon for Chthulu. It was written by neo-pagans as a joke. Some loonies picked up on it and decided it was real. I've met them in person. They're bugfucking crazy.


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My GOD it's fucking true. There must be time travelers screwing with the past. I have detected that we here at SFN are in fact in another never ending loop. Another post of "Oh shit what about this?". Maybe when we get to page 30 the loop will be broken.

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But I have nver met people like that. Do some people really think they have machines like vrill that can activate triple helix dna. Think they can open stargates and wamt to wipe the Earth clean?
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Posted - 10/21/2011 :  09:42:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send justintime a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

Ah...

Unfortunatly before (about two months ago) I had never really known about the occult, all I heard was left hand path and right hand path occultism. So this whole idea of the Thule society is all new to me. According to Peter Moon there was a group called Order of the black sun that were immensly feared. Was this ture?

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_vril07.htm


Now we are finally getting somewhere. Remember me asking you if you were left or right handed(page 14). I just knew you were going to spring that up sooner or later.
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Posted - 10/21/2011 :  09:43:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

Becuase this is bit different then someone thinking god is talking to them or that the raputre is apon us. This mixes occult, 666, Crowley, rituals, bril. Everything!
No, more crazy is not significantly different from crazy.
But I have nver met people like that. Do some people really think they have machines like vrill that can activate triple helix dna. Think they can open stargates and wamt to wipe the Earth clean?
Harold Camping really thinks the world is going to end today. Joseph Newman really thinks he can build a machine that will generate more power than it uses. Homeopaths really think they can cure diseases using water.

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Originally posted by flanagan1000

All of this is something that skeptics like you have never seen before.
That is dead wrong.

I grew up on this occult/Illuminati/freemasons nonsense. But even as a teenager, I knew it was fiction. I later got into witchcraft and newage spiritualism, 'cause that's where the girls where.

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Care to elaborate more?
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Originally posted by flanagan1000

But I have nver met people like that.


Jesus H. Christ on a pogo stick. You are someone "like that."

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Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by flanagan1000

All of this is something that skeptics like you have never seen before.
That is dead wrong.

I grew up on this occult/Illuminati/freemasons nonsense. But even as a teenager, I knew it was fiction. I later got into witchcraft and newage spiritualism, 'cause that's where the girls where.


I cannot believe you did it just be with the girls, DaveW. But you have certainly caught flanagan's interest.
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Originally posted by flanagan1000

Care to elaborate more?
About what, exactly?

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Originally posted by justintime

I cannot believe you did it just be with the girls, DaveW.
I already told flanagan, all this stuff is all about sex.

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