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Hal
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Posted - 10/21/2011 : 21:42:15 [Permalink]
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A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything - Friedrich Nietsche
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justintime
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 Posted - 10/22/2011 : 09:01:37 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hal
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything - Friedrich Nietsche
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You can do very little with faith, but you can do nothing without it. Samuel Butler ... |
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justintime
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Posted - 10/22/2011 : 09:22:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
Go on, show me that there is more things messed up then what I have seen.
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Just because skeptics do not believe what you are going through does not mean you are wrong for believing they are real to you.
Here are other extreme believers who also got by quite well.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/22/2011 : 17:00:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by justintime
You can do very little with faith, but you can do nothing without it. Samuel Butler ... |
"To put one’s trust in God is only a longer way of saying that one will chance it." - Samuel Butler |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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justintime
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Posted - 10/23/2011 : 14:38:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by justintime
You can do very little with faith, but you can do nothing without it. Samuel Butler ... |
"To put one’s trust in God is only a longer way of saying that one will chance it." - Samuel Butler
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Even a lottery. You have to play to win.
Most lottery winners always thank God for winning. I wonder why? |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
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Posted - 10/24/2011 : 13:22:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by justintime
Even a lottery. You have to play to win.
Most lottery winners always thank God for winning. I wonder why?
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Because they don't understand chance.
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
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justintime
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Posted - 10/24/2011 : 17:24:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Originally posted by justintime
Even a lottery. You have to play to win.
Most lottery winners always thank God for winning. I wonder why?
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Because they don't understand chance.
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They say if you really understood chance against the probability of winning a lottery you would not play. So god has a lot to do with the winning of a lottery than just the knowledge of chance. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 11:44:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by justintime
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Originally posted by justintime
Even a lottery. You have to play to win.
Most lottery winners always thank God for winning. I wonder why?
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Because they don't understand chance.
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They say if you really understood chance against the probability of winning a lottery you would not play. |
That would depend on your actual goal.
I don't play the lottery on a regular basis, because I know it's a waste of money. On the other hand, I do throw some money on a semi-regular basis: scrap change I had no use for which I threw in a tin can, still they keep turning up in my wallet. Cash which I have written off. Since they don't constitute a drain on my economy, they instead pays for lottery tickets where some of the ticket price end up charity.
I don't expect to win, but if I do, I sure as hell won't attribute it to any god, because most assuredly, it had nothing to do with it.
So god has a lot to do with the winning of a lottery than just the knowledge of chance.
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I can't parse your sentence. Please rephrase it.
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Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 15:23:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Originally posted by justintime
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Originally posted by justintime
Even a lottery. You have to play to win.
Most lottery winners always thank God for winning. I wonder why?
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Because they don't understand chance.
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They say if you really understood chance against the probability of winning a lottery you would not play. |
That would depend on your actual goal.
I don't play the lottery on a regular basis, because I know it's a waste of money. On the other hand, I do throw some money on a semi-regular basis: scrap change I had no use for which I threw in a tin can, still they keep turning up in my wallet. Cash which I have written off. Since they don't constitute a drain on my economy, they instead pays for lottery tickets where some of the ticket price end up charity.
I don't expect to win, but if I do, I sure as hell won't attribute it to any god, because most assuredly, it had nothing to do with it.
So god has a lot to do with the winning of a lottery than just the knowledge of chance.
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I can't parse your sentence. Please rephrase it.
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He's suggesting that a God is required for some one to win. He is expressing as evidence that people who win the lottery often thank God.
I wonder if he'd think the same if one of them thanked Lucifer and the goat sacrifice they made to their winning of the lottery? |
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alienist
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 10/25/2011 : 15:26:47 [Permalink]
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justintime
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Posted - 10/26/2011 : 06:34:51 [Permalink]
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The question has been asked before.
1. how many people with degrees in math or math related fields play the lottery?
2. how many people with math degrees or backgrounds have had success with the lottery.
The answer. Hardly any. Because the odds against winning a lottery are astronomical.
Since everyone has the same chance of winning. The one who wins just got a little more help and often is thankful for it. |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/26/2011 : 06:44:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by justintime
The question has been asked before.
1. how many people with degrees in math or math related fields play the lottery?
2. how many people with math degrees or backgrounds have had success with the lottery.
The answer. Hardly any. Because the odds against winning a lottery are astronomical.
Since everyone has the same chance of winning. The one who wins just got a little more help and often is thankful for it.
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Conjecture. Unsupported at that.
The one who wins is just at the right time at the right place. There is a 100% chance that a number of some sort will be picked. Lotteries will sometimes go weeks without paying off the main prize if the number of permutations and combinations are large enough. More help not required. |
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BigPapaSmurf
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 10:20:40 [Permalink]
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Remember Radu Cinemar ad the Romanian Sphynx? Well I manage to find somthing that explains is claims and provides evidence for this:
In ‘The Secret Parchment’, Radu Cinamar tells us the story about the origins of civilization in Europe after the Great Flood (approximately 12,000 years ago). He states that the cradle of civilization in Europe is to be found on today’s Romanian territory and that the Ancient Romanian Language – not very different from today’s Romanian popular language (spoken in Romania’s rural areas, finely understood though by every average Romanian) - is in fact the primordial language, the mother of all Indo-European languages (the mother of Sumerian, Sanskrit, ancient Greek and Latin, among others ancient languages).
Cinamar explains to us that the origins of the Aryan Race (blond, blue-eyed and white skin coloured race) are to be found on the territory of modern-day Romania and that this race populated the entire European continent and later (approximately 5-6000 years ago) migrated to the East and populated India and many other regions in Asia.
The author explains to us that the civilization that inhabited these lands was an agrarian civilization – its traditions were deeply rooted in the Love and Respect for Earth and Nature –, that its culture, folklore and arts were highly spiritual. It was a peaceful civilization. The description of this civilization is very similar to the one made by Anastasia of the ancient Russian civilization in the Ringing Cedars Series, in what she describes as being the Vedic times and the Vedic civilization.
The people who inhabited these lands (the territory of present-day Romania) were called the Dacians - also known as the Getae (or Goths) or the Thracians – or the Thraco-Geto-Dacians. These people were actually the Pelasgians, the mysterious ancestors of the Greeks, that were mentioned abundantly by ancient poets, historians and geographers like Homer, Hesiod, Aeschylus, Euripides, Ovid, Herodotus, Iordanes, Pausanias, Strabo.
To support these affirmations there is vast scientific evidence: archaeological, through the recovery and analysis of the material culture and environmental data which this civilization has left behind, which includes artifacts, biofacts and cultural landscapes – for instance, the evidence gathered from the ancient cultures of Schela-Cladovei, Cucuteni, Tartaria (in Tartaria there were found written clay tablets 1500-2000 years older than the cuneiform Sumerian tablets) -, that show us that agriculture, domestication of animals, metallurgy, among other aspects of civilization, have their origins in the Carpatho-Danubiano-Pontic territory (and not in the Middle East as it is generally accepted) ; and linguistic evidence, which is the Ancient Romanian Language (ARL) itself, spoken quite unaltered in Romania’s rural areas, which is what savants have been looking for, for a long period of time - the one common Indo-European Language.
Cambridge University is very well aware of the historical truth that the Aryans have their origins in the Carpatho-Danubiano-Pontic territory – it reached this conclusion in the beginning of the 20th century, while minutely studying the Vedas (the oldest scriptures of Hinduism and the ancient scriptures of the Aryans) when India was still a colony of the British Crown.
In the 50’s and 60’s, Marija Gimbutas - a Lithuanian-American archaeologist and Professor at UCLA –, known for her research into the Neolithic and Bronze Age cultures of ‘Old Europe’, a term she introduced, undertook a wide research on Indo-European cultures and she concluded that
“Romania is the heart of the antique European civilization, a cultural entity between 6500-3500 b.C., centred on a peaceful, matriarchal, theocratic, creative and loving arts, society, which preceded the Indo-European patriarchal warriors’ societies from the Bronze and Iron Ages. The amazing discoveries in Romania and in its neighbouring countries after the Second World War, associated with radio-carbon dating, made it possible to understand the importance of Europe’s cultural beginnings, the culture of an agrarian society. It became also obvious that this extremely antique European society preceded with a few millennia the Sumerian society. These people used a sacred writing beginning at least with the VI-th millenium’s end b.C.”
Daniel Ruzo, one of the pioneers of the New Age, best known for his studies of the esoteric, occult and protohistory, dedicated his life to the study of sacred sites around the world. Ruzo made an expedition to Romania in 1968 that lead him to the discovery of sculptures in the Carpathian Mountains that made him conclude that they had a different style from all other known sculptured works he had seen before:
“I explored the mountains of the five continents of our planet. In the Carpathians Mountains I found unique monuments that are proof that on these lands a great civilization existed. (…) These mountains are located in a region of the world that is the European Center of the oldest culture known in our days.”
The American clairvoyant Edgar Cayce - in his reading 364-13 - referred to the white (Aryan race) having its origins in the Carpathian Region and also stated that this Region, along with the Caucasian Region, was the location of the Garden of Eden:
“6. The white (race) – rather (appeared) in the Carpathians than India (…)
11. In the first (period), or that known as the beginning, or in the Caucasian and Carpathian, or the Garden of Eden (…)”
The Vatican possesses an incredible amount of ancient manuscripts that prove the facts presented in the above paragraphs (about the ancient civilization that lived in the present day Romanian territory, about the language that was spoken by the Dacians and the true origins of the Latin language), but one can only imagine how interested this incredibly wealthy institution is in making these data public. Fortunately, Truth always comes out in the end.
In the last two pages of his book ‘The 12th Planet’, Zecharia Sitchin tells us about the ‘four regions’ - three of them were Mesopotamia, the Nile Valley and the Indus valley - on which the oldest civilizations known to Man developed. The fourth region was holy - it was a pure land where the ‘Plant of Life’ dwelled - , it was the land of the divine connection.
This land was on today’s present territory of Romania. |
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The secret perchant was the fourth book that Radu wrote |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/27/2011 : 11:20:11 [Permalink]
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He's wrong on many cases.
No, Aryans did start off in India. They slowly made their way across Europe and eventually into England. This can be traced by the way their God and Goddess names changed as them moved from area to area. Radu's suggestion that the came from Romania.
They were dark eyes, dark haired individuals. And he had to reach back to the 50's and 60's for that suggestion that the Aryans started in Romania. In the 70's and 80's, it was discovered that they instead originated in upper India.
And to top it off, they list as a reputable source, a flim flam artist..... I mean clarvoyant. Interesting how they misuse that term as well. Clarvoyance is the ability to see distant places as they are now.
If they had said trance medium they would have been more accurate. Charlatian and fraud would have been more accurate.
The Vatican has vast stores of documents and sites in their catacombs. Unless one has access to these areas, they cannot verify if they contain the information that they claim that they do. The Vatican does not grant access to these archives and areas (including the Dianic underground temple) to anyone except high church officials with permission from the Pope.
And Jesus Fucking Christ, Zecharia Stitchin. The whackjob that Nancy "kill your pets to protect yourself when Nibru returns" Lieder cited as proof of her batshit insane theory of a hidden planet that was supposed to kill us all in 2004.
You remember a killer planet in 2004, flanagan? No, I thought not. |
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Proof of cover up on time travel technology
