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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 11/03/2011 :  12:36:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

It would be an embarresment. Especially if my parents find out.


Given the state of privacy protection laws here and abroad, I don't think there is much danger of that happening.

This sounds like a lame excuse to avoid professional help.

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Dave W.
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Look, if you're going to get hooked on something weird and inexplicable, at least make sure it's something with a decent beat.

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Kil
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Originally posted by flanagan1000

It would be an embarresment. Especially if my parents find out.
Seeing a therapist is confidential. Your parents don't need to know. And you don't have to tell them. Also, what you tell a therapist is confidential. They are, by law, not allowed to talk to your parents unless you give them permission.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/03/2011 :  15:43:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But what can they actually do apart from maybe give me some drugs to help calm myself done. I'm still going to think about the Thule scoiety and what they want to do with the world. I'm still going to think about Radu Cinemar and what is under Romania with the gold and the earth shattering discovery (and everything else included). Stargates being opened, evil books, demon summoning, whacky conspiracy theories that have never been thought off before. Sangrailian, Master Mason, James Dean and all of the terrifying (and maybe) shit they do. Raul Julia-Levy. Great shift happening in 2012 and the websites associated with them

They will all still be in my head. I try and forget them and sometimes I think I've gotten over them. But as time goes on it all slowly starts building up to me. I see pictures or hear words that reminds me all of that and I keep coming back for updates. Unless the Ludovico technique from A clockwork orange becomes a reality - I'm not sure how I can get over this with counciling.
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"What can they actually do....?" For one, a counselor can give you new mental tools to look at yourself and your problem in a entirely new light. Yes, you may still look or think about these things that bring you so much anxiety, but with a counselor's guidance you'll learn to not react so negatively to these thoughts; that you can control your thoughts and not have these bad thoughts control you. I imagine you could be given useful thought tools to 'redirect' your negative thoughts to more positive ones. There's lot's of methods other than drugs that could be beneficial to you. But, for this to work, you need to drop your self-defeatist attitude...think positively. It's a new mental exercise for you, to get rid of the bad and replace it with new better more positive thoughts. It can be done....millions of people go through self-improvement/self-help therapies and are successful at it. If one falls off the bicycle,...you just get back on it.
Welcome to the human race.

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"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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Kil
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Posted - 11/03/2011 :  16:31:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

But what can they actually do apart from maybe give me some drugs to help calm myself done. I'm still going to think about the Thule scoiety and what they want to do with the world. I'm still going to think about Radu Cinemar and what is under Romania with the gold and the earth shattering discovery (and everything else included). Stargates being opened, evil books, demon summoning, whacky conspiracy theories that have never been thought off before. Sangrailian, Master Mason, James Dean and all of the terrifying (and maybe) shit they do. Raul Julia-Levy. Great shift happening in 2012 and the websites associated with them

They will all still be in my head. I try and forget them and sometimes I think I've gotten over them. But as time goes on it all slowly starts building up to me. I see pictures or hear words that reminds me all of that and I keep coming back for updates. Unless the Ludovico technique from A clockwork orange becomes a reality - I'm not sure how I can get over this with counciling.
But getting over "this" is what counseling is for. How do you know it will not be effective unless you give it a good try? It beats having us tell you you're full of crap, doesn't it? I mean, that doesn't seem to be working. And if what you're saying is true, your paranoia is now getting in the way of having a normal life. If what you say is true, one way or another you will wind up in therapy. Wouldn't it be better if it was your choice?

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flanagan1000
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I really want to go back to the old ways, where I just stuck with mainstream society and be completly ignorant of all of this crazy shit. Its like your going to be mocked and shamed for only caring what goes on the mainstream society when all of this is going on. And what is going on in here is like a message that mainstream society will be completyl change. If say that Radu Cinemar was right all along and every fringe belief comes true, hall of records underground, freemason conspiracy, mystical powers, stargates.

I want to ignore it. Sometimes I think I can, but eventually I get dragged backed ino it.
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Posted - 11/03/2011 :  17:32:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

I really want to go back to the old ways, where I just stuck with mainstream society and be completly ignorant of all of this crazy shit. Its like your going to be mocked and shamed for only caring what goes on the mainstream society when all of this is going on. And what is going on in here is like a message that mainstream society will be completyl change. If say that Radu Cinemar was right all along and every fringe belief comes true, hall of records underground, freemason conspiracy, mystical powers, stargates.

I want to ignore it. Sometimes I think I can, but eventually I get dragged backed ino it.


The Genie is out of the bottle.

You can't put it back. You have to deal with it.

Get professional help.

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Dave W.
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A university counselor is unlikely to be able to prescribe drugs, anyway.

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/04/2011 :  08:09:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just want to ost this blog that was written by the guy who worked a lot wih both the Thule order/Michael Noel Prescott and Supriem Rockefeller. Its basically a sumary o then all and shows how fucked upit all gets andhow anything seems possible:

http://www.wespenre.com/marduk-issue-and-the-earth-bound-anunnaki.htm

10. Supriem David Rockefeller and the Thule Order

Almost exactly 2 years ago (June 2009) I published the last version of the e-book online about Supriem David Rockefeller and the Thule Gesällschaft (Thule Order, Thule Society). It was a blockbuster on the Internet. When I published the first version in the beginning of 2009, I had more than 500,000 visitors in a week. However, as information came in and things were revealed, the first version, with all its flaws and misinterpretations, later matured into "The Myth of David Supriem Rockefeller"[28], which became the last, and much more accurate version of the book, published, as I said, in June of 2009.

Even today, 2 years later, many people are probably wondering who he really is and what the Thule Society was all about. So let's try to put it more in perspective, and start with Supriem David Rockefeller (SDR). There is something very mystical about him, which attracts a lot of people. "No smoke without a fire", as the saying goes.

1 Supriem Rockefeller in Review

There was a lot of debate whether this man is legitimate or not. He was (and still is) claiming that he has the manisola of both Marduk, Lucifer (Ea), YHWH (the Enlil), and more. What does he mean by this? Does it mean that he is all these beings?

First we once again have to explain what "manisola" is. I am going to quote myself here from the Supriem book:

Manisola means Mani (moon) and Sola (sol, sun). It can also be called “moon-sun”. It is the term for the lunar and solar principle. The lunar principle is the female, and the solar principle is the male fertilizing the female.

It is also the story of the Holy Grail. The Grail itself is the lunar principle, the female vagina.

Now, in a nutshell, a Manisola as is spoken of in this chapter, is that only of the superior deities. It is the life force and looks like a bright blue orb. Once it enters the womb, that life force can be reborn and the child will have the same physical characteristics from the past and the memories as well.

Wilhelm Landig, an esoteric writer, most probably a Thule member, wrote about Manisola in his book, Gotzen gegen Thule (Godlets Against Thule):

They are living, intelligent bio-mechanical entities with a complex life cycle that begins as a circle of light and continues through a metallic form before reaching the reproductive stage. Through a regenerative process, a new Manisola grows within the womb of the adult.

The regenerated part is expelled by the remaining mother-nucleus as a new energetic circle of light, corresponding to a birthing technique. This new circle enters on the same seven developmental stages, while the expelling maternal element rolls itself into a ball, which then explodes. The metallic remains contain particles of copper. The optical impressions that eyewitnesses of these Manisolas have had up to now are basically quite uniform.

In the daytime they display an extremely bright gold or silver luminescence, sometimes with traces of rose-colored smoke which then often condense into grayish-white trails. At night the disks shine in glowing or glossy colors, showing on occasion long flames at the edges and red and blue sparks, which can grow so strong as to wreathe them in fire. Most remarkable is their power of reaction against pursuers, like that of a rational creature, far exceeding any possible electronic self-steering or radio control.

Landig goes on to describe how, throughout the ages, all mythologies refer in one way or another to the Manisolas, which are seen as symbols of spiritual potency, unity and love.

[...]

These Manisolas and their accompanying manifestations are a representation of the morphogenetic grid in all its aesthetic glory. According to Landig’s book, they have been interpreted in various ways by different cultures. This also has something to do with the thought forms being projected. If one studies the third and fourth dimensional aspects of sacred geometry, one can see that these Manisolas are cabalistic vessels of creation.

The Manisolas, or “bio-machines”, are primarily fourth dimensional interfaces with the life force itself.[29]

My first mistake, when writing about SDR was that I thought he was saying that he actually was all these deities. He never did. He said he had the manisola of all of them. Is that possible? Hypothetically, yes!

After you, the reader now hopefully has become familiar with the Ša.A.M.i. and the Anunnaki from my previous papers, you are aware of the different major players on the Anunnaki stage. If you look at the beings Supriem says he's got the manisola from, most of them are Anunnaki and related by blood. Now add to the picture that the Anunnaki are/were master geneticists, they could easily create something like Supriem; very easily. They take a little piece of the life force off all these named beings and blend them together. Then they are able to "program" their creation so that certain traits become more prominent than others, and we have the personality the creator gods want; in this case, Supriem Rockefeller with the primary personality of Marduk Ra. But is he even human? I would say he is half-human, half machine. That's what the above definition of manisola explains. He is artificial intelligence, of sorts.

This is one option, which is more plausible than many people may think. And this is what Supriem himself says he believes he is. So let us stay with this thought for a while, pretending this is the case and see what develops:

If SDR has the manisola of all these Anunnaki entities (and a few reptilian traits as well), who would do that, and why? Obviously someone who wants the world to believe that SDR is Marduk Ra, or the current presentation of him. Of all the known players, who would have an interest in this, and why? Basically, only one, as I can see it, and that would be Marduk Ra himself. By creating someone like Supriem, he would have a forerunner and a distraction. For many, it's a double-edged sword. Those who believe SDR is a manifestation of Marduk of some sort will keep their focus on him instead of the real deal. Those who write him off as a hoax will be less likely to believe it when the real Marduk enters the stage (or his successors, in case he actually is deseased). Another hoax, they think. So Supriem, whether he is aware of this or not, would work pretty well as a forerunner and a distraction.

Some people say he's just a prankster and a hoax. This is to simplify it to the extreme. There is more to the picture than meets the eye--always. This whole Supriem/Marduk issue started on the Internet already in 2001; very subtly in the beginning, but it was there. Supriem was then 26-27 years old, born on December 22, 1974, which is normally the Winter solstice, but the solstice was off one day that year, so he is almost born on the solstice, which makes it close enough. Ten years later, he is 36 years old (going towards his 37th birthday) and is still playing out the same story. Doesn't it get old after a while? Doesn't he grow up, and gets tired of this game if it's a hoax? One would think so. There are those saying he is using it to get to the girls in the many bars he is visiting (he is a chronic alcoholic), but which girl in her right mind would follow a guy home who says he is Marduk Ra? If he needs to use something to get girls interested in him, that would certainly be repelling. And besides, SDR is very verbal, intelligent, and has no problem getting girls without such cover story. I doubt he even mentions it to them when he works on seducing them. Only a few, close friends know about it, apparently. The rest have no idea whom he claims he is. So that explanation does not hold water, either.

The other side of Supriem is the well-dressed business man, who travels around the world, supposedly meeting with people from the Global Elite. He very sophisticatedly uses his FaceBook to keep people updated on his whereabouts, but in his role, that wouldn't come as a surprise. Still, is he really meeting with these "important" people? We don't know; he could just be a world traveler, using money from the profits from suspect business deals. Or he could actually be doing what he claims he does.

Supriem has always trusted me, except when I published my second e-book about him, which I co-wrote with another person; a book I later withdrew from the Internet due to that it was not accurately painting the picture of Supriem. It is still available at scribd.com for those who are interested. Just keep in mind that I withdrew it and am of the mindset that it should never have been published. My co-author, however, is of another opinion, but I, as the major writer, had the last say in the decision to take it down.

The trust SDR has found in me has led to that he has revealed a few things to me which I've promised to keep between us. I am still holding on to my word and will not publish anything I've promised not to. All I want to say with this is that he has been more open to me sometimes than he would if he thought I would publish what he told me. One thing he reluctantly agreed to that I could say is that he wishes he doesn't have to do what he is doing. It's like a curse, but he can't just stop it; it's his destiny. I asked him if that's why he drinks a lot. The answer to that was...silence. However, he said this in a context that makes me believe that he was not kidding me; he meant what he was saying, it was one of his "buddy to buddy" moments of confession. And this means that he is not totally in control of his own destiny; someone else is running the show.

If so, we already know the purpose with the Supriem character; to distract and attract, in an effort from his handlers to displace our attention from the real deal. But what will be Supriem's end goal?

If we listen to what he is saying in public, he will become the World Leader, the Maitreya, the Messiah that the world has been waiting for. He is the Second Coming, the Jewish Messiah, but in new clothing, meaning that he now wants to unite all races and religions into one. And he is promoting the Urantia Book as a reference to how the Universe is structured (similar to the WingMakers, who are also talking about 7 superuniverses), and gives special emphasis to the chapter about Lucifer's Rebellion, which is a metaphor of Marduk's rebellion against (the) god(s); the ones from Nibiru. Furthermore, he is supporting the rebuilding of Solomon's Temple, which is another part of Bible Prophecy of the End Times, and this will be his Temple, where he rules a united world. SDR's vision pretty much coincides with that of the real Marduk Ra, doesn't it?

Of course, we know that Supriem is well read on the occult, ancient history (especially that of Sumer, old Babylon and Egypt, the two latter being Marduk's old domains), but why this obsession with Marduk? Because there is something to it, of course.

A year ago or so, after I'd withdrawn my second e-book about him, Supriem said that the world will soon see him rise to power. I doubted it, and still does, of course (it will not happen), but I was curious as to what steps he would take. What happened was that he started traveling the world, intensively. Quite an odd thing to do for a poor man, like some people have portrayed him. I have also seen pictures (not photoshopped) with SDR together with a few prominent people of the Power Elite, which I have promised not to publish at this time. Still, I can mention their existence, and I am sure they will be posted in due time. So he is not an innocent hoaxer, although he is not whom he says he is, either. He is not the coming Messiah or the AnitChrist; these epithets are reserved for the Nibiruan Ša.A.M.i. and the real Marduk, respectively.

Whether people believe the above explanation about who Supriem is or not, one thing is certain; the man is possessed. He has all the signs of being so. The major signs of entity possession are:

destructive and self-destructive behavior,

irrational behavior,

sudden extreme mood swings,

drug- and/or alcohol abuse,

sexual obsession,

sexual perversion (including pedophilia),

pathological liar,

violent behavior (including beating up a partner or a friend or a stranger on the street),

being threatening or even violent when someone opposes him/her, whether in opinion or in action.

There is more, but this will do for now. If a person has one or two of these treats, or more on rare occasion doesn't mean s/he necessarily is possessed, but if it's repetitive and extreme in nature, stay away. And don't fight these entities, because they are often more powerful than humans are in their current state.[30] Instead, if this happens to someone you know, work with it in dream state. Before you go to sleep, decide that your dreams are going to be about healing this other person. Doing so consistently may help tremendously.[31]

Back to our topic now. Before we discuss Supriem in these terms, let's compare with someone else, whom we know for a fact was possessed, and even admitted to it. I am talking about the late singer, Jim Morrison.

Jim told us that he got possessed when he was very young and his family was driving in the deserts, and they saw a dead Native Indian by the road. This affected the young Morrison so much that he unwittingly attracted and took on the spirit of this Indian, who showed to be a shaman. This empowered him a lot and helped him become the charismatic singer and songwriter the world appreciates. However, the price he had to pay was mental disorders, most of them listed above. He died at the age 27, in 1971 of heart failure due to extreme intake of alcohol, opiates and cocaine.


10.2 The Thule Society, Fulfillment of Prophecy, and the Gateway to the Gods

When I wrote the Supriem book, I learned as I went along. I did not have the same knowledge as I have now, two years later. Still, the Supriem book is something I am quite proud of, because it fills a very important purpose and is a springboard to these papers. There is a lot of valuable information in this earlier piece of work.

Likewise, I knew very little about the Thule Society, their goals, and why they are doing what they are doing. I simply knew too little about our ancient history and the visits of the gods. Yes, I had read the "Gods of Eden" by William Bramley, and Sitchin's "The 12th Planet", but now I have plowed through more or less the whole "Earth Chronicles" by Sitchin, and studied other sources as well on the subject, and believe I've nailed it down quite well. This new knowledge puts the Thule in a whole new perspective. So let us contemplate a little bit on this.

Jarl Vidar, the German Thule member, at one time wanted to use me because I am a musician. He wanted me to create a piece of music within certain guidelines and frequencies to open up the stargate to let the gods in. He was of course talking about the Anunnaki ''gods'', who come from Nibiru. One of the purposes of the Thule Order is to help with the transition of the gods when they leave their home planet and come down to Earth; giant beings, armed and ready. Then, Vidar is talking about the Battle of Armageddon, which will happen so that the Earth can be cleansed. He further told me that many, many people will die in the process, but when it's over, there will be Paradise on Earth, where a selected few of the Nibiruans will rule us for another 1,000 years, in peace and harmony, so we can learn how to govern ourselves.

As we can see, this is very similar to LPG-C's perspective, although the Thule is supporting both sides of the conflict, and I will tell you why in a moment.

Hitler saw this whole Nibiru/Marduk issue coming; he was in contact with them mind-to-mind, and he saw how they looked like, and he was terrified. He worked towards the goal of creating the Anunnaki Kingdom, but it was too much for him to handle. It drove him insane and he started acting out in a very destructive manner (some say that Hitler worked with the Dracos and the Grays, and it may very well be that those who showed themselves to him were Reptilian in nature, but still working for the Anunnaki).

Jarl Vidar, who is presently working in tight connection with Michael Noel Prescott, and together they have started a new branch of the Thule, which will embrace the New Aeon of the Anunnaki, is determined to follow the original protocols of the old prophecies. Jarl told me that the old Thule is still stuck in the Old Aeon, but he and Michael are here to introduce the new one.

Jarl is often talking about Shamballa, the old city underground. He says he's been there several times and met with the beings down there. He describes them as very gentle and loving, and they have lived there for a long time. They now need help, in different ways, from humans to support them in their mission; some of them are reptoids. They probably also need strong, psychic humans, who can survive the End Times (Thule is all about Prophecy). This is the reason for the Triple Helix program; it's one way of connecting with the gods, and communicate with them. There are other, better ways, but it requires a lot of training, and the Triple Helix will probably do as surrogate until better ways of communicating can be established. We will talk about "Topological Thinking" in another Paper.

Jarl recently wrote on my FaceBook wall that J.R.R. Tolkien was well aware of what is going on, and had actually been to Shamballa himself and met with the gods. I wouldn't be surprised, because it reflects in his Middle Earth books. Jarl also wants to take me down there whenever we get the chance, but I may opt out on that one.

Jarl's only concern is to have the prophecies fulfilled. When I wrote the Supriem book, people were wondering why Jarl didn't care whether those he worked with supported Marduk or the incoming Ša.A.M.i., but it makes sense, because he wants to bring about the Battle of Armageddon so that the world can be cleansed. He wants the war to happen, because he believes it's imperative for us to be able to create the New Aeon; the New Earth, which will be Paradise, where the "gods" will rule for 1,000 years in peace and harmony. Jarl is purposely trying to create the conflict necessary before the Nibiruans arrive and the Battle can begin. Those who survive the "wrath of the gods" will be highly rewarded. A new Phoenix will rise from the ashes.

And we are still supposed to believe the incoming Ša.A.M.i. are here for us?

Jarl, loyal to his mission, is hooking up with Michael Prescott, who is a very dark person, because he believes Prescott is important for prophecy to be fulfilled. Prescott is using Mardukian Magic when he is trying to achieve their goals (Mardukian Magic being that given to us by Aleister Crowley, John Dee and others). The Thule and Jarl Vidar are not the only ones working furiously to make prophecy fulfilled; most secret societies are, in their own way.

We know from my LPG-C sources that the incoming Ša.A.M.i. can be very loving and gentle, but also quite cruel. They have no second thoughts about killing off anybody who is not supporting the Kingdom, or is on Marduk's side. It sounds reasonable, perhaps, for many who have suffered because of Global Elite policies and suppressive acts like war, mind control, torture, rape, and all the rest of it. But the Nibiruans also make it very clear that if you side with Marduk in any shape or form, you will not be forgiven and killed when they come; and your future generations will be punished for your deeds! Why do you think that is? Because they want to free us from Marduk's suppression? No, these gods want to implement their own laws, rules and policies on us humans here on Earth and make us part of the Kingdom. They are conquerors, and by "cleansing" the Earth, killing off anyone who opposes them, what remains is a new generation of obedient sheep. Do they want to terminate the bloodlines of those who supported Marduk, because their future generations can become future rebels? I am not signing up for that even though I'm not supporting Marduk.

Now, it doesn't impress me when we talk about "imperatives" here. When I discuss this matter with LPG-C scientists, they are not foreign to the idea, saying that this is the Ša.A.M.i. way of handling things, because it's in their nature. That doesn't make them "evil". In a sense, this is true; it's enough to look at our own human race to see how we solve our own problems, but the question is in that case, what are their imperatives? To me it's quite obvious. However, I am looking forward to a future in peace and harmony, where people slowly but surely raise their frequencies to overcome urges like war, revenge, and killing, for any given reason. If we welcome a species who are using the same violent policies that we do now, here on Earth, it is not helpful for humanity's growth. And it's certainly not in our interest to be part of the Kingdom.

Apparently, we are facing a war of huge proportions, where the Mardukian Anunnaki, together with the Global Elite and their foot soldiers (which could be you, your brother or your neighbor), will be furiously fighting the Giants who are coming down here, fully armed, perhaps even with nuclear power We humans, as usual, are caught between, and we are the ones who are going to suffer the most; speaking of population reduction! It really doesn't matter if the war between the incoming and Marduk's branch are real opponents or if it's just staged, we humans are still caught in between.

Then comes the execution patrol. If you sided with the Global Elite and fought on the wrong side, wittingly or unwittingly, you're going to be killed, and your future generations will be punished. Can you believe what kind of karma all this will create here on Earth? And we thought the old Atlantean karma is bad? Not mentioning all the trauma it will create in everyone living here; we all will lose people we love and know well in this final Battle of the Gods. In other words; once again, they bring down their wars here on Earth--"as above, so below".

I am told there is not much we can do about the fact the Nibiruans are coming! And that they are angry! Not at us, supposedly, but at the ones who enslaved us the last couple of millennia. Yes, the incoming are siding with us, but what are the end game? We know what the Bible prophecy says and that's what is played out before our eyes. However, we need to realize that prophecy is either "predictions" made by those who want to enslave us so that we think it's predestined and set in stone, and sometimes prophecy is to warn us about what is ahead if we don't change our ways of acting and thinking. We will discuss workable solutions in the "Soulution Papers". The Pleiadians said we are a very unpredictable race, so let's prove them right!

Because of Prophecy, Jarl became very interested in Supriem. He knew Supriem was not Marduk, but had the manisola of all these different gods. And for any given reason, those who put the manisola (the life force) in Supriem's body, gave him a choice which faction of the Anunnaki to side with. Supriem has gone back and forth on his decision whom to serve, but has more recently sided with Marduk again, as it seems. For Jarl's purposes, as we discussed earlier, it doesn't matter which side SDR (Supriem David Rockefeller) is on.

Jarl Vidar probably means well, but he is playing with inter-dimensional forces he doesn't fully understand, and in his effort to fulfill prophecy, he needs to get in touch with the black arts. After a while, a person who plays both sides in a game where these both sides are destructive, it will certainly cloud one's mind and will backfire. Jarl says that the stargate is open and ready for the gods to enter. I don't know if this is true or not, but it doesn't matter. The gods are coming within the next 50-90 years. We are living through the introduction stage of the "Tribulation" right now, waiting for the gods to arrive (The Battle of Armageddon), and after that we are facing a 1000 years of "Heaven on Earth" (some say 3,600 years, which is not according to prophecy), but Heaven on Earth, in my opinion, can only be achieved without the gods.

In the ancient past, while the original Anunnaki were still here on Earth, in charge of we humans, there were periods where there was peace on Earth and people lived happily and in harmony with these creator gods, but it never lasted. The warrior instinct, the jealousy, the power hunger, the great egos of the gods always came to the surface sooner or later, and conflicts and wars broke out again. Personally, I am tired of this kind of past/present/future. I want something better for mankind--I want total sovereignty. We can do it without having the gods show us how to change our own diapers. I know I can do it (and I'm human), so why can't you, and the rest of us? Yes, we have warrior instincts, too, because we are of the same genetics as the gods, but we are still different. We have something they don't have; we have strong emotions. We need to learn how to tame them, but once we do, we are heading for the stars all by ourselves, by connecting via thought and emotion to our Oversouls. The strength and the answers how to become a galactic citizen doesn't come from warrior races. Already before we were tampered with by this Sirian race, we had something they lacked; something Ea apparently was quite impressed by: we had compassion! Perhaps the reader remembers from a previous paper, how the early, "primitive"(?) apes (homo erectus) sneaked up on Ea and opened his traps, so captured animals that were meant for food for Ea could run free again. Even though the Anunnaki genes are added to these compassionate forefathers of ours, compassion is a strong trait still in humans; it is even pre-dominant! It never left us, and it is there to serve us into becoming multi-dimensional and galactic citizens. Maybe one day we can turn this around and be the teachers instead of the students. Perhaps we have a lot of traits we need to teach the Sirian Ša.A.M.i.? Technologically, we are far behind them, but spiritually we are ahead of them. Do they need us? Perhaps. After all, for Ea to distinguish the emotion of compassion in us he must have felt compassion too, deep inside. Perhaps it was we who taught him how to be more compassionate, and that's why he saved mankind on a few occasions? But in general, do we need them? Not at this point.

What about the Global Elite? Yes, they are here because we need to manage our fear. I have grown out of them. I don't fear them at all; I don't fear Marduk, and I don't fear the Incoming. But I love this planet, and I love the idea of a Living Library. I am also willing to welcome peaceful ETs to visit and trade with us. They give us what we need and we give them what they need. I am not talking about a TTP (Technology Transfer Program) which the government has set up with certain ETs today; I am talking about resources. Food we're growing; minerals, water, supplies. This is what is already happening out there in the Universe every day. But we are not included, because we haven't learned how to manage our fear. We are still in the destructive hands of the few, and as long as we are, we will stay in quarantine to protect the off-planet species.

A new planet, which vibrates on a much higher frequency than the old Earth? Is that possible? Yes, Jarl, it is! Absolutely! But it can't be achieved by fulfilling prophecies that were made up by the gods who have power and control as their main attribute with intentions to absorb us into their Kingdom. No, we need to claim sovereignty over our biokind and this planet. We do so by creating a new one by our own efforts; not to play out the gods against each other--again(!)

The Pleiadian said in one of their more recent lectures that there are groups here on Earth who are working with, around, or alongside with prophecy, and some of these groups are working hard to make these prophecies come true. I am aware of 5 groups working with any of the above. They are, The Thule; LPG-C; the WingMakers; The Corteum and the Labyrinth Group; and S.A.A.L.M. The three latter groups we will cover in detail as well in the few upcoming papers.

What the human race needs is education. We can't gather around certain imperatives if we don't know the options. This is the sole reason I am writing all these papers. Mankind needs to know what's going on so we can make proper decisions, or we'll be caught up in something which will be our demise as a species in the long run--we will end up as cyborgs in a high tech Machine Kingdom!


Thre, you see how terrifying this all is? Its so elaborate and well documented that I don't knowwhat to believe. Coupled with how the article also shows real organisatons like the S.A.A.L.M and the Life Physic group (http://lifephysicsgroup.org/). What the fuck!?
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"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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Butwhat is it wit the so called Annunki and them bein some alie overlords?
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Also going back to the vril machine and the activation ofthe triple helix... Wes Penre was given inside informaton fromthe thule order and this is what they hve said:

4.4 Triple Helix DNA

I want to wedge in some short comments on Triple Helix DNA, partly because this was a big issue a couple of years ago when I wrote the e-book, "The Myth Around Supriem David Rockefeller" (2009) (http://supriemrockefeller.wordpress.com/). The Thule Order in Germany have people they consider being of a certain spiritual awareness, bloodline, or having certain attributes to be candidates for getting their Triple Helix DNA activated. The candidates send a blood sample to the Order, and they run it through a "Vril Generator", and if the person is ready, his/her Triple Helix will activate, even on a distance. People can send their samples from wherever around the world, and do not need to travel to Germany to have it done.

This is not something I would recommend for many different reasons. "Triple Helix brings you into the feeling center. The feeling center is emotion, and emotion is your road or bridge or ticket to the spiritual self. When people deny the emotional self, they can't get into the spiritual realms."[11]

People who had their Triple Helix activated have testified of increased psychic powers, higher awareness and a new, or increased ability to apply magic. This is all relevant to the activation, but what normally happened after a while when Thule had activated certain people was that they either went insane, started feeling awkward in many ways, or if they already had a complicated emotional life, it was intensified. For example, if the receptors are disconnected in the brain as a result of emotional abuse, baggage or bad karma that wasn't dealt with could result on the individual going insane. The bottom line is that DNA shouldn't be activated by artificial means; it's a natural process and shouldn't be sped up like in Thule's case. If the people were ready to have their Triple Helix activated, they already would and wouldn't need Thule to do it for them. Be very careful what you do and whom you're dealing with. Find the answers within, and don't let others bypass your progression.

In regards to the Thule Order and how they activate the Triple Helix, I have recently received some new information from an anonymous insider source, who says:

The activation of Triple Helix is not a choice for any individual by request; not everyone can be activated. The reason why is because it is a case by case selection process. In the mind, a station is tuned in that enables direct contact with ET's. Particular ones in this case. They refer to themselves as the Elder Race, who are different then the Ancient Ones, and are also called the gods of Agarthi.

If the ETs that gave Jarl Vidar this technology do not see value for them to use you, the ritual will not be successful regardless. Your blood will not activate. Also, the framework of the initiate is analyzed before they are chosen. The mind and emotional body may have glitches. If they are minor and easily repairable, the ET's are willing as long as the initiates desirable traits are far more valuable for their mission. The behavior will be erratic, indecisive or impulsive; at first anyway but over time the brain receptors that are producing unbalanced electromagnetic pulses (kinetic brain energy) will sync with the biological vehicle's velocity of motion; the speed at which the mind evolves to link with the more advanced beings. This duration cycle is best described by analogy of the larval stage of an insect.

There are no mistakes in the selection process of the ET's involved. Once the Triple Helix has been activated, the DNA codes awakened in the program will gain momentum as it progresses towards the specific design of the structure it was activated for. The behaviors and emotions are actually key and required for the individuals course for a few reasons. One is to be able to push forward to completion. Another is to attract the spirits needed on the astral plane to assist them and also to emotionally connect with other people with their now charged magnetism. And other reasons but as I said it is case by case.

Many readers of my previous book, "The Myth Around Supriem David Rockefeller" were curious about how the Vril Machine is working, and at that time I didn't know enough to be able to give a correct answer to that. However, at least I have some more information on it which I hope can be valuable for those who are interested. My anonymous source continues:

The Vril Machine uses the Earth's grid lines and the energy fields that correspond to the body's meridian system to activate the Triple Helix. But I don't have all the details on it to be informative. The energy grid is not functioning properly anyway because it is out of balance. Blockage has been building up energy in the western world and starving the eastern side of the world. That's why the western world is bountiful and the eastern part is living with poverty.

It's important though to look at how those blocks got there. That's a stargate issue that has to be dealt with before we go into the next cycle.

The Mayan Calendar says we are in the fourth world. But actually, only half the planet entered the fourth world. The other half stayed in the third world, as in third world countries. The stargate located in Iraq is being kept in mystery. So I don't know anything about the problem, or a solution for it. But have you ever thought it was interesting how our planet has indigenous tribes co-habituating here on Earth with the modern world? Why wouldn't the tribes people buy shoes and build roads? They have no desire; their way of life is as important to them as ours. And if you talk with them, they will tell you about planets in our solar system that astronomers barely discovered in the last decade, and they don't even own a television.


http://wespenre.com/living-library-dna-and-ascension.htm

By the way, this Wes Penre has writen a lot of articles that are presented as a web page of essays. They all have referenes to publishd work and hint at grous that not many know exist:

http://wespenre.com/site-map.htm
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Originally posted by flanagan1000

Butwhat is it wit the so called Annunki and them bein some alie overlords?


Fairy tales.

"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
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Originally posted by flanagan1000

Coupled with how the article also shows real organisatons like the S.A.A.L.M...
Where did you get the idea that this is a real organization?
...and the Life Physic group (http://lifephysicsgroup.org/).
Well, their web site is full of nonsense. Take this paragraph, for example:
In classical physics – the physics ruled by the Standard Model of Einstein’s physics – the means are theory and model-making, and the method is an empiric one: experimentation. In the “soft” sciences (as opposed to the “hardest” of sciences – physics) such as the social sciences, the method is an experimental nomothetic empiricism. The key to science done within the Standard Model in physics seems to lie in what is admitted in as data: it must be “physical” and be propelled by theoretical requirements prompted by the Standard Model. Even strings and superstrings, highly mathematical entities, must induce integration of natural physical forces – the strong, the weak, electromagnetism and gravity. And when strings are given sensorial conformations, they are visualized as vibrating single strand, corkscrew-like and closed loop in shape. The substance of physics then begins at the Planck limit and extends all the way to the upper limits of the EM range. In the world, this is operationalized as the domain between infinity and the infinitesimal.
Not one of those sentences makes sense. It's all gobbledegook which sounds scientific, but isn't.

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