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moakley
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  12:15:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

To try and make sense of it all... this is all new to me.
This approach is not resolving your problem. Stop posting for a while and go get professional help. It's free at your university.

Life is good

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous
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Hal
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  12:21:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Hal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

To try and make sense of it all... this is all new to me.


You've been posting the same crap for over a month, on more than one site. You've received a huge amount of useful advice, which mostly falls on deaf ears. This is not "all new" anymore.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  12:22:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

To try and make sense of it all... this is all new to me.


No, it isn't.

The critical analysis has been spoon fed to you and you consistently poo-poo it and say "what if".

This has some markings of mental illness. OCD or perhaps schitzophrenia. Please seek professional help.

I, for one, will no longer analyze any further link that you post specifically because you have a long history of posting a "what about this link" statement followed by a link to treuf.

For me to analyze any further link of yours, you MUST describe what is in the link in your own words and describe what it is that disturbs you about it as well as evidence from other sources that validate your fears.

Continually linking to sources that have been shown as suspect or flat out unreliable does not provide support for the rantings that you link to.

Your university offers psychiatric help that is, by law, private and will not be revealed to your parents. This help is free of charge. There is zero reason for you not to take advantage of these services.

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  13:08:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It won't make me forget things, I will still be thinking about things like this link http://www.wespenre.com/new-revelations-on-wingmakers.htm, where the author manages to get all the information together that shows a link with the wingmakers, Roy Gordon, LPG-C, Anthony Pike, Supriem Rockefeller, James Csbolt and S.A.A.L.M. That is what makes me wonder, its so deep and so well connected that this not just the figmant of one imagination.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  13:28:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

It won't make me forget things, I will still be thinking about things like this link http://www.wespenre.com/new-revelations-on-wingmakers.htm, where the author manages to get all the information together that shows a link with the wingmakers, Roy Gordon, LPG-C, Anthony Pike, Supriem Rockefeller, James Csbolt and S.A.A.L.M. That is what makes me wonder, its so deep and so well connected that this not just the figmant of one imagination.


It will help you process them.

Again, you present more links with no analysis.

Get help now.

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  13:35:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But the links have all the information, all I can provide the context, if is the last thing you do. Could you at least look at the link in detail, and you will see why it all connects to each other.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  13:55:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

But the links have all the information, all I can provide the context, if is the last thing you do. Could you at least look at the link in detail, and you will see why it all connects to each other.


No. I won't. You have provided exactly zero reason to.

Get professional help.

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Kil
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  14:35:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

But the links have all the information, all I can provide the context, if is the last thing you do. Could you at least look at the link in detail, and you will see why it all connects to each other.
This is a wild goose chase. It leads nowhere because it's all bullshit. Hell. The whole idea of a conspiracy theory is to connect (supposed) dots in way that makes it seem convincing. Now we're into alien lizard people and the whole illuminati shebang. You will soon be wearing a tin foil hat, flanagan.

I see that there are two forums worth of posts from people giving you the same advice.

Have you ever heard this saying? "If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck."

If you come to a forum like this one looking to sort things out, and you refuse every offer, which has been your pattern, why should we care? If you are for real, it will be sad that you turned down the help. And if your not, well... It doesn't really matter. You will just go find another forum and start over, to get whatever it is that you are getting out of this.





Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  14:35:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh come, just read it, you will find out all. Its vitally important, it explains all, it proivdes evidence and referrence that something sinister is going on.
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Hal
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  14:42:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Hal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

Oh come, just read it, you will find out all. Its vitally important, it explains all, it proivdes evidence and referrence that something sinister is going on.


This is why people think you're a troll. Or a link-spammer. Or a link-spamming troll.

Re-read (or, at least read) Kil's post, above. If you are, in fact, for real, here's the important bit:

The whole idea of a conspiracy theory is to connect (supposed) dots in way that makes it seem convincing.


Well, they've certainly scored a mark with you!
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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  14:46:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

Oh come, just read it, you will find out all. Its vitally important, it explains all, it proivdes evidence and referrence that something sinister is going on.
No, it does none of those things because Penre is not credible and his references are to people who aren't credible.

Do you think channeling ETs is something a sane person would claim to do?

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Hal
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  14:52:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Hal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Penre logic (actually, the premise of a funny SNL skit a few years ago):

1) Santa delivers presents for Christmas morning.
2) There were no presents under the tree on Christmas morning.
3) Therefore, our presents were stolen!

Flan, can you tell us why this argument is flawed? Hint: there's more than one reason. Extra hint: the problems are with statements 1) and 3).

And yes, I understand that this is just a made-up example, whereas Penre and his ilk claim to be making honest propositions. If you have the skills to say why my example argument fails, then you can do the same with this other nonsense.
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Hal
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  15:07:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Hal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And before you say anything even remotely similar to "but this is all documented, and it isn't like that," bear in mind that I'm definitely in the camp that won't be following any of your links. Not even behind six proxies, while wearing a tinfoil hat and three condoms. And this isn't just because I have little or no interest in the links (I don't), but because I don't feel like riding your arm rest every time you have a web surfing session.
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Randy
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  15:45:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Flan, really....go get professional help. What you've shown here is you are mentally ill. There's help for you but not here. You are delusional, meaning you can't tell from reality from illusion or fantasy.
There is near forty fucking pages of you showing your compulsive disorder. And it's been shown you posted this drivel of yours elsewhere. Seek professional help.
In fact, go seek mental help and let us know how you are doing, say maybe after a few months of therapy.

"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  17:37:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LOOK! LOOK! I manage to find more information between how Roy Gordon and James Csbolt interacted with each other. First here are some emails between A. R. Bordon, James Casbolt and Gordon Roy.

http://actionaciolab.blogspot.com/2006_08_01_archive.html, Here are emails from 2006 between A.R. Bordon (of the life Physics Group) and James Casbolt, I will quote an interesting piece from these emails -
New Information E.Mail Recieved 9th Februay 2007

From: "freedom fighter"
To: jamescasbolt@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: RE: Concerned
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:18:45 -0500

Dear James

Firstly; yes I am safe and I thankyou for your prayers and I thank our
Saviour Lord Jesus Christ for HIS protection. I too pray for all humanity in these troubled times.

James - I am attaching some photographic intelligence just received [at enormous risk to our mole
on the inside ] from the last S.A.A.L.M conference in Basle Switzerland. These were sent to me from one of our
extremely valuable contacts who has penetrated SAALM and continues to feed us valuable intelligence at the risk of his life.

About the photographs:

1. Dr Henry Kissinger opened the Oct 26th conference with an address that dealt with many issues, but mainly Iraq [ As you know Iraq is really Babylon and the birthplace of SAALMs monarch Lord Marduk ]

2. Naanuur and P13. Naanuur is Lord Marduks son and made a rare public appearance at the Basle conference. This is considered a great honour to the SAALM Insiders to have a personal representative of Marduks at the conference. Naanuur is a very quiet and majestic individual, and he emanates an enormous amount of chi energy, he is estimated at over 12,000 years old. This photo is EXTREMELY RARE - as the Annunaki loathe to have
their photographs taken.

3. SAALM passport - this is how the Insiders get around and recognize each other. The passports are microchipped and have holographic identity chips implanted in them enabling access to the underground network and magneto shuttle trains that connect the many bases around the globe.

4. A photo of Roy Walter Gordon at the conference who gave a lecture on Accelerated learning techniques. I have some of these documents in my possession if you are interested in perusing them

James - feel free to email me at anytime. The Freedom Fighter network are aware of the ACIO team and their efforts to silence us but as you know James- the Light is with us! Glory be to Freedom!! Continue to pray for the ACIO team and send white light and love to the Annunaki. It is the one thing they have no resistance or defence to.

God Bless
AB


http://www.realityuncovered.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=413&sid=60c369fcb21aace6967886e2440e62bc - Here this thread gives us more interesting information about this Roy Gordon and how he connects to all of this, of most interesting are these -

From: Roy W Gordon < gordonfrlp@y>
Date: Aug 21, 2006 11:09 AM
Subject: Re.: Membership in ACTION Yahoo Group
To: Mike Jamieson < mike.jamieson@gmail.com>, Eric Julien < ericjulien97@y>


Top of the day to you all, gentlemen! Sa va, Eric. Welcome to the A.C.T.I.O.N. Group. Your membership beyond the first two weeks is pending. All invited members are also subject to a Nondisclosure Agreement, which requires that you read, agree, and obtain an MSN Passport to affix that as electronic signature equivalent, even if you have an electronic writing pad and can produce your signature on it. Be also aware that this electronic Nondisclosure Agreement is a legal document from an established program through a USG agency, and has full legal power under U.S. and international law. Why is this necessary? For reasons of security established under exopolitical agreements, and for the high probability that members of this group will come across information classified under these security agreements. This announcement is also covered under such agreements, which literally means enforcement is allowed under such agreements in your cases. Why protect and place the Yahoo group under such agreements? Without protection members could not participate in work assignments to subgroups of interest within the Group, and information would be restricted in the case of those members, which is impractical and time consuming. Thus, pending members who refuse to be bound by the Nondisclosure Agreement would have to have their membership privileges in this Yahoo group terminated.

What does it mean to be bound by this Nondisclosure Agreement? It means, among other things, that any and all information you encounter in this website and through this Yahoo group cannot be shared with anyone who is not a member and is not covered by this Nondisclosure Agreement. It also means you cannot and will not attempt to profit from any knowledge acquired in the course of membership in this Yahoo group, and will also not attempt or complete any work of art (fiction, nonfiction book or screenplay, documentary motion picture or television, drawings and/or paintings, still photographs or video, electronic games and any advance Type 1 or Type 2 technologic applications). It also means you will disclose information requested on a Curriculum Vitae to be sent to you along with the Nondisclosure Agreement and submit both back to the Group Moderator, approval granted by said Moderator on the basis of the information provided therein, prior to restoring full membership privileges. Membership in this Yahoo Group is not a right. It is a privilege, and it is at the discretion of two Group Moderators -- Mr. Black-2020 and GuardianAngel-2.

Additionally, you are also not allowed to use your name on this group. Instead, you may choose or instead will be granted an alphanumeric codename (e.g., Maverick-7843, Raven-9021). So once you receive this note, request help from this Moderator to change your identification. You may also control your email address with regard to other members; however, Moderators will have to have a valid email address on file to be in contact with you upon need. This will be appreciated.

If you have any questions, or if I can be of any assistance in this process, let me know as soon as you can. I am at your service.

GuardianAngel-2
A.C.T.I.O.N. Moderator


gordonfrlp@ has invited you to join the a-c-t-i-o-n group!


Hello. This comes to you from A.C.T.I.O.N. -- now an international group of people who come from the United States, Holland, South Africa, Argentina, Paraguay, Colombia, Mexico, Russia and Israel, who found a powerful internal commitment to working with extraterrestrial biokinds now in near Earth space and on the surface. A.C.T.I.O.N. is a project initiated by FOTORLA (Foundation of the Ones Returning-Los Angeles) and operated by LABYRACIONetwork, a group of scientists who work with and through the I.D.E.A. (Institute for the Development of Energetic Applications) in California, USA. This invitation to you is generated and sent and the instance of one of three founders of A.C.T.I.O.N. -- Drs. A. R. Bordon, Roy W. Gordon, and James Traveler N. Joining this group is by invitation only. The front page of the group explains clearly what A.C.T.I.O.N. is all about. If you are a thinking, feeling, self-aware, interconnective individual, this is a group that will be glad to have you as member. This is a working group, which means it will make some demand on your time, your mind power, and your emotional wherewithal. As member, we promise you one thing: life will be interesting.

Thank you for your consideration of this invitation. If and when you choose to proceed with joining, I will help you through the induction process into what the group is all about and answer any and all questions you may have. Those of us who are here now in this group sat within the silence of our souls and we found we had to do this, because we knew then as we know now where it leads.

Roy W. Gordon
GuardianAngel-2 (GA-2)


The mystery is getting more clearer yet deeply more strange.
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