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Machi4velli
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 Posted - 06/29/2012 : 22:22:33
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I saw a trending article about the "first genetically modified" babies being born from the Daily News this week (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-43767/Worlds-GM-babies-born.html) -- several blogs mentioning it, but that's the only source I could find, which made me doubt the story.
However, on one website someone linked this story at CNN:
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/TECH/science/05/05/US.genes/
The same scientist, same institution, even some of the same numbers are here. As far as I understand (which is very little), the science seems the same as well -- but, from 2001:
| Cohen wrote in the British journal Human Reproduction that this was the "first case of human germline genetic modification resulting in normal health children." |
Here's an excerpt from the 2012 story:
| Writing in the journal Human Reproduction, the researchers, led by fertility pioneer Professor Jacques Cohen, say that this 'is the first case of human germline genetic modification resulting in normal healthy children'. |
So, what's going on here? The Daily Mail story isn't dated, so I can't tell if it's just a case of social network/reddit necromancy, or something more?
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Edited by - Machi4velli on 06/29/2012 22:24:57
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Machi4velli
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Posted - 06/29/2012 : 22:39:59 [Permalink]
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That one links to this one: http://naturalsociety.com/worlds-first-genetically-modified-babies-created-in-us/
Which links the Daily Mail but seems to have pulled the date out of no where.
Turns out if you search for the story on the Daily Mail, you get a 2001 date:
Source
Bloggers making up dates I see...
Edited to fix overly long link that was messing up the page view in the thread.
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 06/29/2012 : 22:59:28 [Permalink]
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| I, for one, welcome our 11-year-old GM overlords. |
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Posted - 06/30/2012 : 13:55:56 [Permalink]
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| To be fair, the Daily Mail didn't do anything wrong here (beyond possibly plagiarism, but that's beside the point), just the websites referencing it. |
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 07/01/2012 : 01:15:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Machi4velli
To be fair, the Daily Mail didn't do anything wrong here (beyond possibly plagiarism, but that's beside the point), just the websites referencing it. |
I know it's the Silly Season, but even so, writer Michael Hanlon must be held responsible for either deliberately distorting the news, or being unprofessionally negligent in researching it. And for plagiarism. He's presumably a science reporter, after all. But the blame really goes all the way to the top, with how The Mail does atrocious journalism.
You folks here got to the bottom of the matter, after all. And you weren't even paid to do so. |
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Machi4velli
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Posted - 07/01/2012 : 10:49:06 [Permalink]
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| What was distorted or wrong here? It seemed to essentially match the CNN article. The only distortion was websites picking the story up and making up a current date for it that the Daily Mail didn't claim. |
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Posted - 07/01/2012 : 10:57:34 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Machi4velli
To be fair, the Daily Mail didn't do anything wrong here... |
And run-of-the-mill poor science reporting. To a casual reader, the piece is going to suggest that scientists modified particular genes to get the desired result, when what really happened was that the scientists sucked some of the fluid out of a healthy cell and injected it (and everything it contains) into the egg of a woman who was having trouble conceiving. This wasn't a tinkering-with-base-pairs sort of genetic modification, it was hit-or-miss, at best. |
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Posted - 07/01/2012 : 11:07:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Machi4velli
What was distorted or wrong here? It seemed to essentially match the CNN article. The only distortion was websites picking the story up and making up a current date for it that the Daily Mail didn't claim.
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My error. I had that backwards in my mind. Never mind. |
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"First genetically modified" babies born
