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HalfMooner
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Posted - 07/17/2012 :  13:06:08  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote

If you know this Face, please post the name below.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 07/17/2012 :  16:01:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hint #1: This person's day job isn't rocket science, but it's something that often gets bandied about in the same loose context.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 07/17/2012 :  18:09:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Michael Egnor

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

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Posted - 07/17/2012 :  19:24:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

Michael Egnor
Very good! You're right, OffC!

Michael Egnor is a practicing and fully qualified brain surgeon (or neurosurgeon) at at Stony Brook. He's also a supporter of Intelligent Design and the Discovery Institute. Egnor claims that "Doctors don't study evolution. Doctors never study it in medical school, and they never use evolutionary biology in their practice." Burt Humburg points out Egnor's misstatement of the facts here. One of Humburg's best comments is this:
Or consider my anatomy lab. So we’re learning the muscles of the back and having a dickens of a time trying to memorize their innervation. No problem, says my anatomy professor, and walks to the chalkboard. He draws a circle and puts in two perpendicular intersecting lines like crosshairs. Picking up the red chalk, he drew the musculature of the shark and with the yellow chalk he drew the nerves that innervate those muscles. Pretty primitive anatomy, really. Then he explained how, through phylogeny, the shark shape gets filleted down the middle, with the two inferior bits being the most lateral and the posterior being the medial, and there you’ve got the mammalian innervation. And the anatomy of it made perfect sense. There was no longer any memorization (past the damned names, that is); there was a theory that explained it all. And I can see Egnor refusing to admit the ease an evolutionary perspective of anatomy affords students, maybe to the point he would have refused the easy way of learning that material. His anatomy lessons must have been harsh, memorizing every muscle, compartment, bone and nerve, never once allowing himself to grasp the overall organizing patterns because he just knew that evolution was wrong.
(Or you could look at my favorite bit of evolution evidence, the recurrent laryngeal nerve. From just observing that nerve, it makes no sense that, in higher vertebrates, a nerve running from the brain to the larynx goes all the way to the vicinity of the heart, the curves back and runs to terminate at the larynx in the throat. But that weird routing makes all kinds of sense when one throws in evolution. The routing was a step-by-step evolutionary kludge. Surely a neurosurgeon like Egnor has heard of this nerve, and its strange journey!)

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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