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The Rat
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 08/06/2012 : 08:48:38
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They did it, and it is good.
When someone says something stupid that insults your intelligence (especially if it is anti-science), it is perfectly okay, for the next few weeks, to reply with "Mars Curiosity landed perfectly. Your argument is invalid."
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Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.
You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church? - The Bishop of Bath and Wells, Blackadder II
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Hal
Skeptic Friend
USA
302 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 10:14:29 [Permalink]
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I'm speechless.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 10:57:04 [Permalink]
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Hear, hear! |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13477 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 13:27:22 [Permalink]
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About the photo that Hal posted:
Mars orbiter catches pic of Curiosity on its way down!
Phil Plait: The simple and sheer amazingness of this picture cannot be overstated. Here we have a picture taken by a camera on board a space probe that’s been orbiting Mars for six years, reset and re-aimed by programmers hundreds of millions of kilometers away using math and science pioneered centuries ago, so that it could catch the fleeting view of another machine we humans flung across space, traveling hundreds of million of kilometers to another world at mind-bending speeds, only to gently – and perfectly – touch down on the surface mere minutes later. |
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
1383 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 16:03:03 [Permalink]
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VERY cool picture! |
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On fire for Christ
SFN Regular
Norway
1273 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 19:24:10 [Permalink]
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It's all very cool, and I am genuinely interested and impressed. But I just don't think it's worthwhile. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13477 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 19:59:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
It's all very cool, and I am genuinely interested and impressed. But I just don't think it's worthwhile. | Well I suppose it comes down to how much you value knowledge of Mars, our planet's history, the history of our solar system, life and that sort of thing. If that kind of knowledge isn't of much value to you, I'm glad that funding missions of this kind is not up to you. |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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On fire for Christ
SFN Regular
Norway
1273 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 20:17:08 [Permalink]
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IT has value, just not enough to justify the pricetag. Would you have made the call to fund it if the cost was 10x higher? Obviously everyone has a cutoff point, mine is just lower than yours. |
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
1990 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 21:02:25 [Permalink]
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Here's a cool animation on the "Seven minutes of terror" landing. |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 22:11:49 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
But I just don't think it's worthwhile. | How much money have you spent on your religion? |
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
1990 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 22:23:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by On fire for Christ
But I just don't think it's worthwhile. | How much money have you spent on your religion?
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Or time? |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?" -Neil DeGrasse Tyson |
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On fire for Christ
SFN Regular
Norway
1273 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 22:44:32 [Permalink]
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are you comparing the Mars curiosity Rover to a religion? |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2012 : 04:04:18 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
are you comparing the Mars curiosity Rover to a religion? | Just the cost. I'm wondering how much you've personally spent on an activity that you obviously consider "worthwhile" and I don't. The Curiosity mission has cost about a dollar per person in the U.S. per tax year, overall. But my grandparents dumped about 2,600 times that much into their worthless religion, for example. Imagine all the knowledge we could gain if people funded science the way they fund religions... |
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On fire for Christ
SFN Regular
Norway
1273 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2012 : 05:56:31 [Permalink]
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Yes except there's an inherent difference between what people choose to spend their money on, and what money is taken from them by tax. Aren't you a libertarian? Anyway, I don't see what my personal spending habits have to do with what American tax money gets spent on. Once again you seem to want to turn everything into a debate on religion when no one brought it up and it has nothing to do with the topic. Another sad attempt to be confrontational with me. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2012 : 07:42:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
Yes except there's an inherent difference between what people choose to spend their money on, and what money is taken from them by tax. | In the U.S., taxes are money that We the People have collectively chosen to spend.Aren't you a libertarian? | Why do you insist on insulting me?Anyway, I don't see what my personal spending habits have to do with what American tax money gets spent on. Once again you seem to want to turn everything into a debate on religion when no one brought it up and it has nothing to do with the topic. Another sad attempt to be confrontational with me. | You're the one who decided to publicly opine upon the worthlessness of the Curiosity mission. So I opined back about the worthlessness of something you think is worthwhile, and now you're acting all butthurt. |
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
3739 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2012 : 08:07:47 [Permalink]
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The entire budget of NASA is less than half a percentage of the current federal budget. Yeah, I totally think this was worth it.
End the military industrial complex.
Tax the rich a lot more.
Spend more money on infrastructure and social service, and awesome stuff like NASA. |
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