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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 08/22/2013 :  07:47:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner
Yeah, really. When are you gonna come up with a workable plan for Moderating WBC?

I have several plans, but they all involve napalm at some point.




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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 08/22/2013 :  11:16:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Originally posted by HalfMooner
Yeah, really. When are you gonna come up with a workable plan for Moderating WBC?

I have several plans, but they all involve napalm at some point.




Ah, yes, good old napalm. In (I think it was) 1966 the Navy ship I was on came close to the Saigon River delta as part of the first large-scale amphibious operation of the Vietnam War. As I watched with binoculars, an F-4 Phantom II swooped from right to left across the tree line and dropped napalm bombs on a patch of jungle, flames leaping into the air.

Know that final scene from Apocalypse Now, where the plane drops the napalm on the jungle? Perhaps you don't. I saw that in the film as first shown in 1979. (Since Francis Ford Coppola had not intended that last scene to imply that Martin Sheen's character had called in an airstrike, he soon cut that segment, so you may have missed it.) When I saw the napalm scene, it looked exactly as the actual napalm drop had appeared. It sent a shiver through me.

The actual destruction the location set representing Col. Kurtz's base had been required by the government of the Philippines, and Coppola could not resist doing that destruction in a spectacular way, and filming it with many cameras, some high-speed.

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Edited by - HalfMooner on 08/22/2013 11:36:23
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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/22/2013 :  12:02:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There's still a napalm bombing in Apocalypse Now, after the helicopters land on the beach. "I love the smell of napalm in the morning..."

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 08/22/2013 :  13:37:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Huh. I surely recall that Robert Duvall line, especially as it's one of the most famous in film history. But somehow I don't recall the actual napalming that accompanies it.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/22/2013 :  14:59:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's right before Duvall's speech. The run starts at about 3:45 in this clip, but is discussed before then.

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 08/23/2013 :  02:44:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

It's right before Duvall's speech. The run starts at about 3:45 in this clip, but is discussed before then.
The "fighter-bombers" in that scene appear to be Northrop T-38 Talon supersonic trainer jets, with added USAF insignia. I'm thinking the Philippine Air force (which in 2013 has no jet fighters at all) might have supplied them for the movie. Note the jets did not dive, and no bombs were shown dropping from them. (Where's Chippewa when we need an aeronautical opinion?)

The jet I saw in real life dropping napalm in the Saigon River delta was an F4 Phantom fighter-bomber. I know them pretty well, because the many carriers for which my ship did underway replenishments ("UNREPS") had many F4s on their flight decks. I'm now going to look at that final Apocalypse Now scene to see what jet the movie used there.

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Edited by - HalfMooner on 08/23/2013 03:10:45
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 08/23/2013 :  03:34:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here's the original final scene of Apocalypse Now, with Coppola's voice-over as he explains it. This footage is certainly not what I'd "remembered" of the movie's end. (No jet, etc.) What I must have confused this with, and compared to my real-life memory, was the bombing scene preceding the "smell of napalm in the morning" scene, which more closely resembles my actual Vietnam War recollection. Once again, the unreliability of human memory is on exhibit.

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