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Dave W.
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 Posted - 09/13/2016 : 09:06:32
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The group behind ScienceDebate.org has released the answers they've gotten (so far) from the major(ish) Presidential candidates this election cycle, and it's clear which campaign has put the most thought into their answers.
Of note: Trump's repetitive mantra of "free markets." He doesn't seem to realize (well, one more of many things he obviously doesn't grok) that his ideal of allowing agriculture a fully free market is in direct conflict with his insistence that the food supply is a national security issue.
(As of this writing, the Libertarians haven't offered any answers at all. My guess is that they're trying to figure out how to avoid sounding like carbon copies of Trump.)
Oh, and Jill Stein (of course) doesn't seem to like GMOs. Or pesticides. Yet one can reduce the reliance on the other. Go figure.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 09/13/2016 : 17:14:20 [Permalink]
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No surprises. I doubt that Trump actually wrote or has a policy on anything that was written in his name. I mean, when asked about many of these things in interviews, he changes the subject because he's clueless. He has called climate change a hoax. So whoever answered it was consistent there. Everything is more important than climate change. That's more generally the GOP position ever since they forgot that they also came up with cap and trade. That was before climate change became a hoax.
Even though I agree with Stein on some of the issues, she has no chance with me. She is just wrong on several issues, including GMOs and the superiority of organic farming. It's an anti-science position that bucks the scientific consensus and that is a non starter for me. She was also very careful in her vax comment. What she is essentially saying is she will not mandate vaccines. Her plan is to try to talk anti vaxxers into changing their minds. Also, vaccine resistance of the fault of big pharma/FDA and not because of assholes like Andrew Wakefield. Sigh...
Gotta go with Hillary. |
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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 09/13/2016 : 19:07:16 [Permalink]
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| OMG, is the SFN now coming out as anti-libertarian as well as being pro frankingstein food and pro gun control? I'm sorry this is too much |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/13/2016 : 20:01:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
OMG, is the SFN now coming out as anti-libertarian... |
Somebody hasn't been paying attention. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/13/2016 : 20:36:31 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
No surprises. I doubt that Trump actually wrote or has a policy on anything that was written in his name. I mean, when asked about many of these things in interviews, he changes the subject because he's clueless. |
Well, sure. I doubt Hillary typed up her own answers, either, and instead merely approved a document drafted by staffers.| He has called climate change a hoax. So whoever answered it was consistent there. Everything is more important than climate change. That's more generally the GOP position ever since they forgot that they also came up with cap and trade. That was before climate change became a hoax. |
As a bunch of bloggers have noted, Trump's answers include scare quotes around the important term. It's really all one needs to know about their position. But it's a little surprising they didn't include "so-called" or "alleged" or something similar:...the field of so-called “climate change.” |
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ThorGoLucky
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Posted - 09/14/2016 : 12:38:38 [Permalink]
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Trumps answers are definitely not written by him, as they're too coherent, ha.
I'm half anti-Libertarian. I love the personal freedom part, but I don't like the part about enabling The Bad Guys and putting the fiction of free markets above future generations and the ecosystems upon which we stand.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/15/2016 : 20:03:46 [Permalink]
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Okay, every libertarian-leaning individual should be tossing out any pro-Trump stuff they've got. With regards to Ford moving all of its small-vehicle production to Mexico, Trump said that the government shouldn't allow Ford to do that. So much for free markets.
It's all just catch-phrases and dog-whistles for Trump. The only clue he has is to which sound-bites his current, proximal audience wants to hear at that moment in time. |
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Kil
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Posted - 09/16/2016 : 08:04:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
The only clue he has is to which sound-bites his current, proximal audience wants to hear at that moment in time. |
He's very good at doing that. Even so it amazes me that he has the numbers he's got. It blows my mind. I doubt he will win, but it sure makes me uncomfortable that so many people find him acceptable. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/20/2016 : 16:41:34 [Permalink]
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Life imitates art. Trump is the Senator Bob Rumson character in The American President. That movie summed up Trump's shtick pretty well:We have serious problems to solve, and we need serious people to solve them. And whatever your particular problem is, I promise you, [Trump] is not the least bit interested in solving it. He is interested in two things and two things only: making you afraid of it and telling you who's to blame for it. That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you win elections. So the answer to Trump is obvious: get Aaron Sorkin to write speeches for Clinton. |
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ThorGoLucky
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Posted - 09/21/2016 : 09:45:12 [Permalink]
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Gary Johnson responded to Science Debate 2016. So-called free markets and capitalism is great for tech development, but quality science and research needs government funding.
"We believe that no source of energy is categorically wrong or right."
Oh, so coal that is polluting, mild-radioactivity, and environmentally destructive in its mining is no more bad than solar? WTF? Well, at least he pro-nuclear.
Also, it's so funny listening to Christians and their mental gymnastics in their defense of supporting Trump.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/22/2016 : 09:30:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ThorGoLucky
"We believe that no source of energy is categorically wrong or right."
Oh, so coal that is polluting, mild-radioactivity, and environmentally destructive in its mining is no more bad than solar? WTF? |
Well, you're talking relative morality there, while Johnson says "categorically."
But I still think Johnson is incorrect. If you rip new-born babies out of their mothers' arms and use the resultant tears to generate power, that would, indeed, be categorically wrong.| Also, it's so funny listening to Christians and their mental gymnastics in their defense of supporting Trump. |
(If you want more anti-Trump stuff, Keith Olbermann has 176 Reasons Donald Trump Shouldn't Be President.) |
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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 09/28/2016 : 09:13:21 [Permalink]
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| But trump will cut tax. I hate tax. Tax is bad so less tax = less bad. Less bad means more good. Trump = good. |
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ThorGoLucky
Snuggle Wolf
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Posted - 09/28/2016 : 17:32:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
But trump will cut tax. I hate tax. Tax is bad so less tax = less bad. Less bad means more good. Trump = good.
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Impeccable logic, OFfC.  |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/01/2016 : 22:34:04 [Permalink]
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And Trump is an anti-vaxxer. And apparently the tide has turned, and now more conservatives are anti-vax than liberals.
Now how do we go about getting Trump to promote PETA and Greenpeace? |
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