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LordofEntropy
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Posted - 04/17/2004 :  17:49:37  Show Profile  Visit LordofEntropy's Homepage Send LordofEntropy a Private Message
Does the "I serve a higher power" excuse work with the IRS.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040417/ap_on_re_us/creationist_investigation_1

I guess not!
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Paladin
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Posted - 04/17/2004 :  18:14:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Paladin a Private Message
quote:
...Hovind said he suspected he is being targeted because of his religious beliefs and questioned the timing of the raids a day before the April 15 tax-filing deadline.
Yeah, right. He'll probably get off with a slap on the wrist, BECAUSE of his religious beliefs, knowing the fundamentalist disposition of our current President.

Paladin
Edited by - Paladin on 04/17/2004 18:15:32
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filthy
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Posted - 04/17/2004 :  18:18:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
If Hovind goes like Jim Bakker, I for one, will miss his preposterous antics. He's always good for a laugh.

He touts 'church authority' being above the secular law, but I'm forced to notice that a great many other churches have no hassle with the certainly secular IRS. Is it because they have better accountants with more sets of books?

In some cases, no doubt about it, but for the most part, I don't think so.

But suddenly we begin to hear the renewed cries of, "Persecuting the Christians!!" I don't know exactly why this is; the entire country is mostly believers in Christianity, so how are we small, highly disorganized few persecuting them? Indeed, if it were not for Constitutional protections, as history tells us, the story would be exactly the reverse.


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Maverick
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Sweden
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Posted - 04/18/2004 :  04:40:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Maverick a Private Message
How this affect the possibilities for me to discover the law of the pendulum in his "theme park"? :-)

"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy." -- Carl Sagan
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filthy
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Posted - 04/18/2004 :  08:20:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
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Originally posted by Maverick

How this affect the possibilities for me to discover the law of the pendulum in his "theme park"? :-)



Didn't know he had one. Is it like Forcate's(sp?) Pendelum? If so, I know how it works. We all do.


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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/20/2004 :  11:37:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Here, by the way, is a snippet from an old editorial talking about Hovind:
Now we get to the really disturbing part.

In another section of his site, Hovind explains why he doesn't pay income tax and why he declines to have a social-security number.

In explaining this, Hovind references the red and blue pills featured in the fantasy movie The Matrix. In the movie, Laurence Fishburn offers Keanu Reeves a red pill to wake up from a fictional illusion and join the real world, or a blue pill to remain in fantasy land. Hovind is one of the lucky ones who knows the truth. He has taken the red pill.

According to Hovind, a conspiracy of government leaders in the 1930s destroyed the United States government and created the UNITED STATES corporation. The all-caps denotation is important, because said leaders used the tricky new name to fool us "blue-pillers."

Then, these leaders invented social-security numbers to create "strawmen," mirror identities that exist on paper only but allow the government to tax us and pay the national debt. Of course, these strawmen are also spelled with all capital letters, just like they are on drivers' licenses and any other legal documents the government uses to trick people into signing away their lives.

This delusional theory is becoming very popular among right-wing Internet circles, and Hovind urges readers to distance themselves from their strawmen or entirely sever their connections with the government -- and reality, while they're at it.
That might explain some of the tax avoidance and whatnot.

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tomk80
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Netherlands
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Posted - 04/20/2004 :  12:58:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
I tried to find articles on this on Hovind's website, but apparently they are know all taken off line. Why should that be?

Tom

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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/20/2004 :  16:17:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Archive.org is your friend.

That link may take a loooooong time to load. Bandwidth is not their priority.

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