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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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 Posted - 12/17/2004 : 08:12:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Valiant Dancer wrote:quote:
We don't deal harshly with you because you are a Christian. We deal harshly with you based on your arguementation style and inconstitancies in your arguements.
He's been told that many times now. The whole "persecuted Christian" thing is another one of the delusions that verlch cannot let go.
Should we add it to the very long list of verlch unsupported claims?
I recall telling him time and again that the "poor persecuted Christina" thing is a fallacy on his part in attempts to get him to actually address the issues he's been dodging. He loves trotting out the "you're persecuting me" line when he's loosing the arguement and he is being actively pressed for evidence for his assertations. |
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Dave W.
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Ryujin
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Posted - 09/15/2005 : 17:43:38 [Permalink]
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| let me explain a few things to you people....verlch is right....ignorance is all apart of this global new world order....for crying out loud its on the one dollar bill "annuit cueptis" meaning our enterprise.......meaning "its a success"....whats a success?.....novus ordo seclorum...meaning "new world order"....george bush's new world order is now a success....and you know its truly not that hard to believe when..we have communist china running china...and having the usa decalaring china the most favored country.....everyone that refuses to believe any of this is plain out ignorant...just like they want you to be.....and how....just how...do we get 4 planes supposedly hijacked within 6 hours in this great country of ours....4 planes in less than 6 hours.....and wheres the wreckage from the "plane" that hit the pentagon....see if you an find pics of a plane that crashed into it.....how does a boeing fit into a 17 foot hole?....there are a lot of other things that are just too much to type..if you have questions....go ahead and ask.... |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/15/2005 : 17:49:08 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ryujin
if you have questions....go ahead and ask....
What is the pupose of creating a New World Order and why is it a bad thing?
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
4826 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2005 : 07:03:49 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ryujin
let me explain a few things to you people....verlch is right....ignorance is all apart of this global new world order....for crying out loud its on the one dollar bill "annuit cueptis" meaning our enterprise.......meaning "its a success"....whats a success?.....novus ordo seclorum...meaning "new world order"
Success of the new government and the realization of a freemason ideal of government for the people by the people. verlch is flat out wrong.
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....george bush's new world order is now a success....and you know its truly not that hard to believe when..we have communist china running china...and having the usa decalaring china the most favored country.....everyone that refuses to believe any of this is plain out ignorant...
Your prejudgical language fallacy doesn't fly here. China is most favored status as a trade partner because of economics. MFN status is given to China so that we will be able to trade with them. Access to over 1 billion consumers require it from our elected leaders.
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just like they want you to be.....and how....just how...do we get 4 planes supposedly hijacked within 6 hours in this great country of ours....4 planes in less than 6 hours.....and wheres the wreckage from the "plane" that hit the pentagon....see if you an find pics of a plane that crashed into it.....how does a boeing fit into a 17 foot hole?....there are a lot of other things that are just too much to type..if you have questions....go ahead and ask....
We did the whole "plane in the Pentagon" thing. We determined that the hole was larger than 17 feet and there was no way a jet of the appropriate size did not hit the Pentagon. The evidence is there.
Hijacking planes was simplier before 9/11. A coordinated effort by a terrorist team fulfilled it's objective. |
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 09/16/2005 : 07:10:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ryujin
let me explain a few things to you people....verlch is right....
..if you have questions....go ahead and ask....
LOL!!!
The only question I have is what does it feel like to live in a constant state of delusional paranoia? |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/16/2005 : 08:27:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by pleco
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Originally posted by Ryujin
let me explain a few things to you people....verlch is right....
..if you have questions....go ahead and ask....
LOL!!!
The only question I have is what does it feel like to live in a constant state of delusional paranoia?
Actually it's great. Really, it's the only way, if you can keep it under control. 
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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furshur
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 09/16/2005 : 08:54:52 [Permalink]
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Welcome Ryujun.
First, it is not a good idea to start off with "[anyone who doubts me] is plain out ignorant", if you really do want us to ask questions of you.
You said:
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george bush's new world order is now a success
My question is, what do you mean by this? The state of the world looks pretty much the same as it did before Bush was elected; except the US is fighting a little more overtly to control the oil supply of the world.
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furshur
SFN Regular
USA
1536 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2005 : 09:12:20 [Permalink]
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and how....just how...do we get 4 planes supposedly hijacked within 6 hours in this great country of ours....4 planes in less than 6 hours.....
You have a rich fanatic using religious fanatics to hijack the planes, what is so difficult to believe about that?
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and wheres the wreckage from the "plane" that hit the pentagon....see if you an find pics of a plane that crashed into it.....how does a boeing fit into a 17 foot hole?....
This whole missle hit the pentagon crap has been thouroughly debunked. There are plenty of pieces of wreckage if you would go to nonconspiracy sites you could see them too. As far as finding large pieces, a relatively fragile plane traveling at 500 mph and hitting a concrete building does not leave alot of large pieces.
You saw with your own eyes a plane hit the world trade center right, so where is the wreckage? After the first hit there were cameras all around the trade center - I didn't see any large pieced of wreckage, did you?
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ktesibios
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 09/16/2005 : 09:33:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ryujin
let me explain a few things to you people....verlch is right....ignorance is all apart of this global new world order
You mean like the ignorance you demonstrate a bit farther down?
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....for crying out loud its on the one dollar bill "annuit cueptis" meaning our enterprise.......meaning "its a success"....whats a success?.....novus ordo seclorum...meaning "new world order"....
You know, you can find the correct translations of these mottoes by the simple expedient of Googling them. Dig:
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The Latin motto "novus ordo seclorum" was suggested by Charles Thomson when he put together the final design for the reverse side of the Great Seal in June 1782:
"On the base of the pyramid the numerical letters MDCCLXXVI & underneath the following motto. 'novus ordo seclorum'"...
"Novus" means: new, young, fresh, novel. "Ordo" means: series, row, order. "Seclorum, a shortened form of seculorum (sæculorum), is the plural of seculum (sæculum), means: generations, centuries, ages.
Latin expert Charles Thomson coined the motto: "novus ordo seclorum" and explained:
"The date underneath [the pyramid] is that of the Declaration of Independence and the words under it signify the beginning of the new American Æra, which commences from that date."
The U.S. State Department translation of "novus ordo seclorum" is:
"A new order of the ages"
NOTE: "Novus ordo seclorum" was not intended to mean (nor does it correctly translate into) "new world order." Seclorum is plural (new worlds order?). And Thomson said the motto refers to the new American era beginning in 1776. Also, "new world order" is originally an English phrase whose Latin translation would not be "novus ordo seclorum."
Source: http://www.greatseal.com/mottoes/seclorum.html (you can also find the translation and history of "annuit coeptis" there)
In Revolutionary times the educated classes had Latin literally whipped into them as students. It's extremely unlikely that such a basic grammatical error as a plural/singular conflict would have survived to wind up on an official national symbol.
For people who want to play the prophecy-fulfillment game, I highly recommend a reading of chapter 38 of The Innocents Abroad. Twain's comment on prophecy-thumping is as relevant today as it was in 1867:
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The fashion of delving out fulfillments of prophecy where that prophecy consists of mere "ifs," trenches upon the absurd. Suppose, a thousand years from now, a malarious swamp builds itself up in the shallow harbor of Smyrna, or something else kills the town; and suppose, also, that within that time the swamp that has filled the renowned harbor of Ephesus and rendered her ancient site deadly and uninhabitable to-day, becomes hard and healthy ground; suppose the natural consequence ensues, to wit: that Smyrna becomes a melancholy ruin, and Ephesus is rebuilt. What would the prophecy-savans say? They would coolly skip over our age of the world, and say: "Smyrna was not faithful unto death, and so her crown of life was denied her; Ephesus repented, and lo! her candle-stick was not removed. Behold these evidences! How wonderful is prophecy!"
Smyrna has been utterly destroyed six times. If her crown of life had been an insurance policy, she would have had an opportunity to collect on it the first time she fell. But she holds it on sufferance and by a complimentary construction of language which does not refer to her. Six different times, however, I suppose some infatuated prophecy-enthusiast blundered along and said, to the infinite disgust of Smyrna and the Smyrniotes: "In sooth, here is astounding fulfillment of prophecy! Smyrna hath not been faithful unto death, and behold her crown of life is vanished from her head. Verily, these things be astonishing!"
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