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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 02/12/2006 : 16:10:26
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I heard it on the radio, apparently a hunting accident; don't know the details. Anyone else hear anuthing?
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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 Posted - 02/12/2006 : 16:12:47 [Permalink]
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Birdshot injury to a 78-year-old quail hunting companion, yesterday, on a ranch near Corpus Crispi [Edit: When I realized my mispelling of "Cristi," I thought, "Hmmm... Corpus!"], Texas. Old guy's now out of the hospital.
Seems they sat on the news overnight. Cheney visited the guy in the hospital. News (CNN) seems to blame the victim, for not announcing his approach to Cheney.
(See, I told you, filthy, you can hit anything with birdshot loads.)
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trogdor
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Posted - 02/12/2006 : 16:27:31 [Permalink]
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| the guy got hit in the cheek, neck and chest. I wouldn't trust Cheney as far as I could throw him. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 02/12/2006 : 16:40:03 [Permalink]
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quote:
(See, I told you, filthy, you can hit anything with birdshot loads.)
Wuz the durn gun turned the right way....? Yeah, but from my experience with them, if clay pigeons were edible, I'd have only the vaguest idea of what they taste like.
Well, that's not entirely true -- I used to do a little bird hunting, but I rarely shot my limit.
All firearms accidents are caused by stupidity.
Thanks for the update, guys.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/12/2006 : 16:49:19 [Permalink]
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Proper announcement etiquette for approaching an armed Dick Cheney:
[Cough, cough!] "Dick, it is I, Harry Whittington, an old man not much resembling either a quail, a terrorist, or a Democrat! Dick, muzzle down and safe your shotgun, please!"
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| Edited by - HalfMooner on 02/12/2006 16:50:34 |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/12/2006 : 20:58:08 [Permalink]
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Here's one: http://www.bushwatch.com/gravedigger.htm
It looks like in 1999, Whittington was brought in as a cleanup man after George W. Bush, then Texas Governor, got caught in a corruption case involving the firing of a funeral-home industry regulator who'd had the temerity to do her job. The case was known as "Funeralgate" at the time.
The fired woman sued and won, but, apparently as part of the settlement, Bush never admitted wrongdoing. Old Harry Whittington was brought in by Bush to head the Texas funeral agency, and "reluctantly" paid the settlement.
And there's a Wikipedia entry for Harry Whittington:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Whittington
And this entry for Katherine Armstrong, on whose ranch Whittington was shot:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katharine_Armstrong
We begin to see a web of Texas Republican money and influence.
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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Posted - 02/12/2006 : 23:38:57 [Permalink]
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"Hunting"? Thats a far stretch. quote:
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported today that 500 farm-raised pheasants were released yesterday morning at the Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier Township for the benefit of Cheney's 10-person hunting party. The group killed at least 417 of the birds, illustrating the unsporting nature of canned hunts. The party also shot an unknown number of captive mallards in the afternoon.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
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Posted - 02/12/2006 : 23:48:42 [Permalink]
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I dunno, Starman. I think the Texas hunt was a sporting sort of event, considering that it turned out to be Republicans shooting their armed peers. I only wish I'd been invited.
And Cheney is supposed to be one of the smart guys in the White House. But I guess it's all relative.
But yes, canned hunts are digusting.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 02/13/2006 : 00:42:32 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by HalfMooner
Proper announcement etiquette for approaching an armed Dick Cheney:
[Cough, cough!] "Dick, it is I, Harry Whittington, an old man not much resembling either a quail, a terrorist, or a Democrat! Dick, muzzle down and safe your shotgun, please!"
Maybe this isn't the folder to mention this but...why let that stop me. LOL.
Seems like this web site has become one sided and not an open minded place to discuss issues. Like the two political partys that now have a reputation of extreme opposites because of certain members, so everyone wants to take sides.
Everyone here wants to make fun of Cheney, why because he's a Republican?
That Republican party, the party that 'freed the slaves', ok they also promoted womens right to vote.....no body is perfect. But the Democrats had William Jennings Bryan which seems to me a bit of an irony considering what many people think of religions here.
Oh well! Maybe someone will understand.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
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Posted - 02/13/2006 : 01:09:45 [Permalink]
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Snake snapped:
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That Republican party, the party that 'freed the slaves', ok they also promoted womens right to vote.....no body is perfect. But the Democrats had William Jennings Bryan which seems to me a bit of an irony considering what many people think of religions here.
Oh well! Maybe someone will understand.
Yeah, but the Republican Party has put all that embarrassing old stuff like Lincoln, etc., into their ancient history circular file now. Now they are dominated by a slick combination of corporate greed, Neocon ideology, propagandistic lies, doublespeak, contempt for learning and science, and religious fervor. Moderate Republicans have almost no say in their Party at present.
People make fun of Cheney because they hate and fear the bastard. It's better than crying or shrieking. I always hear the Darth Vader theme playing in my mind when I see the SOB. A pratfall like him shooting another Republican provides a bit of needed comic relief. It also gives an opportunity to see what kind of folks he hangs out with: Big surprise, it's not with people like you or me, but with rich Republican donors and cronies.
And if right-wing conservative, anti-science theocrats seem a bit thin among the skeptics here, I think that is kind of self-explanatory.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 02/13/2006 : 02:06:36 [Permalink]
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I wonder how they're going to spin this. Indeed, I don't see many ways they can spin it; after all, if I have the story straight, the gun was in Cheney's hands and he took a deliberate shot -- none of this "I didn't know it was loaded" crap. The responsibility is entirely his and at best shows a just short of criminal lack of attention, and at worst, a towering incompetence. He did not have a clean shot at the bird, but took it anyway.
Mr. Whittington reads like small loss, and he might be lucky not to have become that loss. Even a tiny, little 28 gauge loaded with birdshot will make a hell of a hole if it's close enough, and here is the question: If he was far enough away that he got hit by the edge of the pattern, and that seems to have been the case, how could Cheney not have seen him in time to abort the shot? The "came up behind unannounced" explanation seems a little thin. According to the shot pattern, and if I still have the story straight, Whittington would have to have been at least several yards away and clearly visible.
Canned hunts are indeed a piss-poor form of sportsmanship, but we didn't invent them. They came to us from England, and elsewhere, where they have a history going back to the Middle Ages and before. Nobles would go out with the entire, local peasntry acting as beaters. It continues today with organized grouse shoots and other forms of game hoggery.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/13/2006 : 02:28:27 [Permalink]
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Filthy, they do seem to keep working away with the spin that the accident was entirely Whittington's fault. What a crock. I agree, it was more likely Cheney's incompetence. Wonder if they were all drinking? I learned much better shooting discipline as a 12-year-old. I've never fired where I could not see everything was clear, simple as that. Fog, dust, darkness, exhaustion, don't know where your dog is, drunkenness; just don't shoot.
I read that the Mongols would send out thousands of beaters on a massive scale, rounding up every four-footed critter within huge areas, then killing everything within the small final circle. And this they did for fun, not primarily for food.
Not sporting, though, such hunting. The proverbial shooting of fish in a barrel. But guys like Cheney seem to delight in having deck stacked in their favor, among people, or among game.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2006 : 02:52:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Filthy, they do seem to keep working away with the spin that the accident was entirely Whittington's fault. What a crock. I agree, it was more likely Cheney's incompetence. Wonder if they were all drinking? I learned much better shooting discipline as a 12-year-old. I've never fired where I could not see everything was clear, simple as that. Fog, dust, darkness, exhaustion, don't know where your dog is, drunkenness; just don't shoot.
I read that the Mongols would send out thousands of beaters on a massive scale, rounding up every four-footed critter within huge areas, then killing everything within the small final circle. And this they did for fun, not primarily for food.
Not sporting, though, such hunting. The proverbial shooting of fish in a barrel. But guys like Cheney seem to delight in having deck stacked in their favor, among people, or among game.
Indeed, indeed.....
Here's a little more on it: seems that there is another person involved on the edge of it. It further seems that the incident is being all but ignored by the newspapers.
What a fucked-up parcel of "leaders" we have.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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