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ergo123
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Originally posted by ergo123
And what's with you thinking I am comparing MYSELF to famous inventors? I was talking to Dave about Dave--pointing out that his lack of imagination limits his thinking. And that if a known inventor had Dave's lack of imagination, they wouldn't have been a famous inventor.
Dave's current mission is analyzing your statements. He is not trying to invent a theory as you do. He's got imagination enough, but imagination does not solve logical problems such as "is ergo's statement x internally, logically consistent?", or problems like "Ergo claims statement 'y' was made in the 9/11-report, but statement 'y' cannot be found in the 9/11-report".
Right now, all I can see is BS and misdirection coming from you, and after 14 pages of it, I'm starting to think that you are not worth the effort.
Prove me wrong by starting to own up to the claims you have made.
What part of "I'm looking for evidence (not just opinion) that the administration was NOT behind the events of 9/11" don't you understand!!!!!! If you can't understand that try "I'm looking for evidence (not just opinion) that the administration's conspiracy theory is true." If you aren't interested in doing that then kindly shut the fcuk up.
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 20:35:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
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Originally posted by ergo123
Can no one here think on a conceptual level? You are so concrete. Even when I explain the conceptual content of my posts you can't process it.
I can state with certainty that no one here has ever corrected you due to a misunderstanding of your intended meaning. Rather, it is you who have consistently not understood the replies you have been given.
And BTW, you don't need to quote someone else's long, thought-out reply in its entirety if you are only going to respond with some irrelevant smart ass comment. Besides being in poor taste, it needlessly takes up space.
What makes you think i don't understand the answers. The problem with most of their answers is they have nothing to do with my original question!! |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 20:36:04 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ergo123
Do you really not see that I'm looking for evidence that the towers were brought down by gravity alone? And that so far you have all failed to convince me?
It will be impossible to convince a person about the physics of the situation when that person thinks that 'mass' is just the way scientists refer to 'weight', or that inventing untestable explanations is a valid way of moving towards the truth. You lack the scientific background to understand the answers you've been given to your questions (you couldn't even point out the blatant errors in my math), but lay claim to secret knowledge (which you refuse to share) that there are "errors" in those answers. |
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 20:37:20 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
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Originally posted by ergo123
Can no one here think on a conceptual level? You are so concrete. Even when I explain the conceptual content of my posts you can't process it.
I can state with certainty that no one here has ever corrected you due to a misunderstanding of your intended meaning. Rather, it is you who have consistently not understood the replies you have been given.
And BTW, you don't need to quote someone else's long, thought-out reply in its entirety if you are only going to respond with some irrelevant smart ass comment. Besides being in poor taste, it needlessly takes up space.
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 20:37:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ergo123
What makes you think i don't understand the answers.
The fact that you think they have nothing to do with your original questions.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 20:42:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ergo123
What part of "I'm looking for evidence (not just opinion) that the administration was NOT behind the events of 9/11" don't you understand!!!!!! If you can't understand that try "I'm looking for evidence (not just opinion) that the administration's conspiracy theory is true."
You've been given such evidence, and you rejected it for reasons that you've kept to yourself.quote:
If you aren't interested in doing that then kindly shut the fcuk up.
Just because you're unable and/or unwilling to address Mab's points doesn't mean that hostility will shut him up. Quite the opposite, I imagine. |
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 20:46:06 [Permalink]
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| Well they don't. My original question had to do looking for evidence that the official conspiracy theory is TRUE. All people like dave can do is comment on my theory. I don't give a damn if any of you believe my theory. I'm not here to validate my theory. I'm here to fine evidence for the official conspiracy theory. |
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 20:47:13 [Permalink]
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| Well they don't. My original question had to do looking for evidence that the official conspiracy theory is TRUE. All people like dave can do is comment on my theory. I don't give a damn if any of you believe my theory. I'm not here to validate my theory. I'm here to fine evidence for the official conspiracy theory. |
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 20:50:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by ergo123
What part of "I'm looking for evidence (not just opinion) that the administration was NOT behind the events of 9/11" don't you understand!!!!!! If you can't understand that try "I'm looking for evidence (not just opinion) that the administration's conspiracy theory is true."
You've been given such evidence, and you rejected it for reasons that you've kept to yourself.quote:
If you aren't interested in doing that then kindly shut the fcuk up.
Just because you're unable and/or unwilling to address Mab's points doesn't mean that hostility will shut him up. Quite the opposite, I imagine.
Ah, so that's what it's all about--me not believing you... |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 21:00:26 [Permalink]
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Ah, so that's what it's all about--me not believing you...
It's about offering no justification for your doubt. No one's asking that you accept an assertion without examination. But you don't seem to be able to accept anything that conflicts with your beliefs even though you can't point out anything that's wrong with it.
That doesn't make you a skeptic. It makes you unreasonable.
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 21:07:20 [Permalink]
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| My psychic powers tell me that ad homs are on the horizon... |
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 21:11:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
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Originally posted by ergo123
Ah, so that's what it's all about--me not believing you...
It's about offering no justification for your doubt. No one's asking that you accept an assertion without examination. But you don't seem to be able to accept anything that conflicts with your beliefs even though you can't point out anything that's wrong with it.
That doesn't make you a skeptic. It makes you unreasonable.
No one needs to justify their doubt. |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 21:16:49 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ergo123
No one needs to justify their doubt.
When the weight of evidence already supports one conclusion, then of course they do. No one gets to just hand wave the evidence away and say "It's not enough for me. Bring me more."
You'll often see creationists try to get away with this. The evidence for evolution is quite substantial, yet many think they're allowed to pretend it doesn't exist. That's unreasonable doubt since it is unjustified in the face of the evidence.
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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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Ghost_Skeptic
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 21:18:35 [Permalink]
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The Wright Brothers was the "best" bad analogy I have heard in a long time.
I have never seen such a display of cluelessness (except maybe for the mass/weight thing - I learned the difference in Grade 10 physics)
As others pointed out the Wright brothers were well aware of other heavier than air flight such as gliders. In fact they acknowldged their debt to Otto Lilenthal by paying his widow a pension. |
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"Religion is the natural home of the psychopath" - Pat Condell
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 21:29:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ergo123
No one needs to justify their doubt.
If you want to appear to be a reasonable person, you do. Otherwise, you're just a contrarian - a 2nd-grader in the schoolyard taunting the other kids, "nuh-huh!"
[Standing policy at the SFN is to lock threads after they reach 15 pages. This one has done so, and there already exists a companion thread, so I'm locking this one now.] |
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