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ergo123
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Posted - 10/14/2006 :  11:25:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message
Because you answered my question with a question (or not at all).

And to illustrate the minutia you (and) others focus on--like challenging how one defines "complete collapse" when the resulting pile of rubble was clearly a level of destruction never seen outside of a controlled demolition.

You seem to defend this focus on minutia as adherence to scientific protocol. But you are missing the bigger picture by doing so.

You simply are not going discover the truth of what happened on 9-11-01 by sticking to the info released in NIST or other government reports, because they do not cover the actual collapse.

I fail to see how a bunch of skeptics have failed to see that.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/14/2006 :  16:20:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

And to illustrate the minutia you (and) others focus on--like challenging how one defines "complete collapse" when the resulting pile of rubble was clearly a level of destruction never seen outside of a controlled demolition.
I've never seen that level of destruction with a controlled demolition, either, so I don't see how the "level of destruction" is even relevant.
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You seem to defend this focus on minutia as adherence to scientific protocol. But you are missing the bigger picture by doing so.
No, I was ridiculing your invention of entirely new definitions solely to defend your poor word choice.
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You simply are not going discover the truth of what happened on 9-11-01 by sticking to the info released in NIST or other government reports, because they do not cover the actual collapse.
Good thing that nobody is doing that here, then.
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I fail to see how a bunch of skeptics have failed to see that.
I see that you've failed to see that we haven't failed to see that.

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ergo123
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Posted - 10/15/2006 :  01:29:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message
Ahh, I see. If you haven't seen it, it isn't relevant.

Enough said.

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tomk80
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Posted - 10/15/2006 :  04:10:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

Ahh, I see. If you haven't seen it, it isn't relevant.

Enough said.


Yes, if there's no evidence for it, it is indeed not relevant. Your proposition that the WTC was brought down by controlled demolition has no evidence in favor of it. Hence, it is indeed an irrelevant position.

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/15/2006 :  06:32:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by tomk80

quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

Ahh, I see. If you haven't seen it, it isn't relevant.

Enough said.


Yes, if there's no evidence for it, it is indeed not relevant. Your proposition that the WTC was brought down by controlled demolition has no evidence in favor of it. Hence, it is indeed an irrelevant position.



So if you haven't seen it, there is no evidence for it? Not too ego-centric...!

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/15/2006 :  07:53:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

Ahh, I see. If you haven't seen it, it isn't relevant.
That's not at all what I said. You are sooo Fred.
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Enough said.
Actually, you said enough for us to know that you're not at all serious many pages ago.

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ergo123
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Posted - 10/15/2006 :  08:52:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.


quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

Ahh, I see. If you haven't seen it, it isn't relevant.
quote:
That's not at all what I said.


Here is what you said: "I've never seen that level of destruction with a controlled demolition, either, so I don't see how the "level of destruction" is even relevant." That pretty much says you don't see the level of destruction as bein relevant because you not see that kind of destruction before...

quote:
Enough said.
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Actually, you said enough for us to know that you're not at all serious many pages ago.



And yet you all continue tp comment... Why do you think that is?

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Neurosis
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Posted - 10/15/2006 :  12:33:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Neurosis an AOL message Send Neurosis a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123


Here is what you said: "I've never seen that level of destruction with a controlled demolition, either, so I don't see how the "level of destruction" is even relevant." That pretty much says you don't see the level of destruction as bein relevant because you not see that kind of destruction before...



You are soooo good at reading what you want to hear right into peoples posts. What he said was (as though it was not typed out right above). He has never yet seen a CD that matches the level of destruction seen with the WTC. So (an implied please) show how the level of destruction is in fact relevent.

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ergo123
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Posted - 10/15/2006 :  12:44:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Neurosis

quote:
Originally posted by ergo123


Here is what you said: "I've never seen that level of destruction with a controlled demolition, either, so I don't see how the "level of destruction" is even relevant." That pretty much says you don't see the level of destruction as bein relevant because you not see that kind of destruction before...



You are soooo good at reading what you want to hear right into peoples posts. What he said was (as though it was not typed out right above). He has never yet seen a CD that matches the level of destruction seen with the WTC. So (an implied please) show how the level of destruction is in fact relevent.



You are soooo good at reading what you want to hear right into peoples posts.

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Dude
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Posted - 10/15/2006 :  13:06:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
ergo(liar)123 said:
quote:
Here is what you said: "I've never seen that level of destruction with a controlled demolition, either, so I don't see how the "level of destruction" is even relevant." That pretty much says you don't see the level of destruction as bein relevant because you not see that kind of destruction before...



Yet more evidence that all you can do is generate an endless stream of poorly constructed straw-men.


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The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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tomk80
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Posted - 10/15/2006 :  13:24:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

quote:
Originally posted by tomk80

quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

Ahh, I see. If you haven't seen it, it isn't relevant.

Enough said.


Yes, if there's no evidence for it, it is indeed not relevant. Your proposition that the WTC was brought down by controlled demolition has no evidence in favor of it. Hence, it is indeed an irrelevant position.



So if you haven't seen it, there is no evidence for it? Not too ego-centric...!


No, you haven't presented any evidence for us to see. There's a difference.

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/15/2006 :  13:39:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

And yet you all continue tp comment... Why do you think that is?
Because watching you flounder in half-baked rationalizations trying desperately to justify the nonsense that you spew is somewhat amusing.

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ergo123
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Posted - 10/15/2006 :  14:17:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

And yet you all continue tp comment... Why do you think that is?
Because watching you flounder in half-baked rationalizations trying desperately to justify the nonsense that you spew is somewhat amusing.



That's a sad commentary on your personality Dave.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/15/2006 :  15:31:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Nobody forced you to do what you're doing to yourself, ergo, and nobody is making you remain. I have no empathy for someone who gets himself into a jam he could quite easily extricate himself from, but refuses to do so. If you were actually a victim here, I wouldn't find this amusing at all, but you're in complete control of the situation in which you find yourself.

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McQ
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Posted - 10/15/2006 :  15:31:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send McQ a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

And yet you all continue tp comment... Why do you think that is?
Because watching you flounder in half-baked rationalizations trying desperately to justify the nonsense that you spew is somewhat amusing.



That's a sad commentary on your personality Dave.



Actually, it's a very accurate comment. Best thing I've seen since the "Surface of the Sun" thread.

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