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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/18/2006 :  05:54:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

What you fail to understand is that the use of explosives to bring down the towers is unrelated to my knowledge of how to do so.
I think we all understand that you have no clue as to how explosives could have been used to bring down the towers, but still you think they were used.

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filthy
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Posted - 10/18/2006 :  06:49:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote


quote:
What you fail to understand is that the use of explosives to bring down the towers is unrelated to my knowledge of how to do so.
Then how can you postulate that set explosives brought down the towers if you don't at least have an inkling of how such specialized blasting is done? An inkling, by the bye, that I, in my boundless generosity, have attempted to supply you with.




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Posted - 10/18/2006 :  07:42:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How are you doing on gathering that evidence you are going to supply us; or have you "changed your approach" again?


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ergo123
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Posted - 10/18/2006 :  08:35:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

What you fail to understand is that the use of explosives to bring down the towers is unrelated to my knowledge of how to do so.
I think we all understand that you have no clue as to how explosives could have been used to bring down the towers, but still you think they were used.



What part of "working theory" do you not understand dave?


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ergo123
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Posted - 10/18/2006 :  08:52:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by filthy



quote:
What you fail to understand is that the use of explosives to bring down the towers is unrelated to my knowledge of how to do so.
Then how can you postulate that set explosives brought down the towers if you don't at least have an inkling of how such specialized blasting is done? An inkling, by the bye, that I, in my boundless generosity, have attempted to supply you with.







That's like saying a person can't suggest driving to the store is the quickest option if they don't understand how an internal combustion engine works.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/18/2006 :  08:57:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

Woah, dave. I just asked you how you can be sure the images weren't altered... No underlying assumption.
The underlying assumption is that the images can be altered. As you said earlier:
What kind of scientist can't see what is assumed in a given argument?!
Of course, you've never claimed to be a scientist (neither have I), and it's quite obvious you'd be a poor one.
quote:
And I'm sure that your lack of providing evidence that you predicted my question was an oversight on your part, and that it will be posted soon...
Right here in this thread, on page 4:
WOE be to those poor sheeple who are fooled by the Feds into thinking that photographs of airplane wreckage at the Pentagon have not been Photoshoppethed!
Now where is the evidence that you promised us?

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/18/2006 :  08:58:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

I'm not claiming it can be done another way. I'm just remaining open to the possibility.
No, you claim that you can present evidence that explosives were used, and evidence has already been presented that they must have been used in "some other way" if they were used at all. Where is that evidence you're going to present, anyway?

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/18/2006 :  09:00:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by ergo123

What part of "working theory" do you not understand dave?
Obviously the part where your unsupported guess somehow becomes a theory.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/18/2006 :  09:03:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

That's like saying a person can't suggest driving to the store is the quickest option if they don't understand how an internal combustion engine works.
No, it's like saying that a person can't suggest that driving to the store is the quickest option if they don't understand that automobiles tend to be faster than walking. Understanding an internal combustion engine isn't necessary to know how to drive, but knowing something about driving is necessary to be able to compare it to other methods of getting from point A to point B.

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ergo123
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Posted - 10/18/2006 :  09:12:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

Woah, dave. I just asked you how you can be sure the images weren't altered... No underlying assumption.
The underlying assumption is that the images can be altered. As you said earlier:
What kind of scientist can't see what is assumed in a given argument?!
Of course, you've never claimed to be a scientist (neither have I), and it's quite obvious you'd be a poor one.
quote:
And I'm sure that your lack of providing evidence that you predicted my question was an oversight on your part, and that it will be posted soon...
Right here in this thread, on page 4:
WOE be to those poor sheeple who are fooled by the Feds into thinking that photographs of airplane wreckage at the Pentagon have not been Photoshoppethed!
Now where is the evidence that you promised us?



Why can't the images be altered?

And that's not proof that I would ask that question.

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ergo123
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Posted - 10/18/2006 :  09:15:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

I'm not claiming it can be done another way. I'm just remaining open to the possibility.
No, you claim that you can present evidence that explosives were used, and evidence has already been presented that they must have been used in "some other way" if they were used at all. Where is that evidence you're going to present, anyway?



But you have no idea if the evidence that it must be done "some other way" is true.

And it's not up to me to determine how it was done.

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ergo123
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Posted - 10/18/2006 :  09:18:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

That's like saying a person can't suggest driving to the store is the quickest option if they don't understand how an internal combustion engine works.
No, it's like saying that a person can't suggest that driving to the store is the quickest option if they don't understand that automobiles tend to be faster than walking. Understanding an internal combustion engine isn't necessary to know how to drive, but knowing something about driving is necessary to be able to compare it to other methods of getting from point A to point B.



No. Just seeing a car go down the street would be enough.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/18/2006 :  09:43:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

Why can't the images be altered?
I never said they couldn't be. Never implied it, either.
quote:
And that's not proof that I would ask that question.
You didn't ask for proof that you would ask that question, you asked for evidence that I predicted the question. I provided such evidence, and rather than admit it, you moved the goalposts.

Hey, where is that evidence that you said that you'd provide, anyway?

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/18/2006 :  09:51:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

But you have no idea if the evidence that it must be done "some other way" is true.
I don't? Interesting: your objection implies that everything about the construction of the towers is up for grabs, that nobody knows how they were really put together. Which, of course, would mean that Ross' analysis is completely worthless, too.
quote:
And it's not up to me to determine how it was done.
If you don't know how it was done, then how could you possibly provide evidence that it was done? Oh, that's right, that was a bluff on your part - you'll never make good on your promise to provide any evidence of anything.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/18/2006 :  09:53:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

No. Just seeing a car go down the street would be enough.
Only if you already know what a 'car' is and how to 'drive' it. You're obviously making assumptions about driving that you admit you can't make about explosive demolitions, and so your analogy fails miserably.

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