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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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 Posted - 10/22/2008 : 23:04:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by bngbuck
get your fucking brains in order!! |
You do remember that skeptic griggsy is an avowed schizophrenic, don't you? I couldn't tell you whether her visits here were on medication or off, but I'm not sure that makes a real difference.
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Actually it's Schizotypal Personality Disorder. Not Schizophrenia. And it is probable that he could and should write in paragraphs. Nevertheless, Bill, that was a tad harsh, don't you think? |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 10/22/2008 : 23:22:45 [Permalink]
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bng, just remember that you defended retard jerome here on SFN.
Griggsy, while incoherent(mostly) and often unintelligible, doesn't demonstrate willful ignorance, deliberate deception, or intentional provocation.
From what little I can decipher he/she/it seems to be trying to engage in some conversation about the nature of reality.
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 10/23/2008 : 00:10:44 [Permalink]
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All.....
Sorry. I shall endeavor to suffer fools a little bit more gladly! |
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 10/23/2008 : 00:38:22 [Permalink]
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Dude.....
But Jerome was a hell of lot more fun! I wanted to keep him around like a crazy puppy! Neat to play with!
This person (M or F?) is simply incomprehensible! I missed all the early shit going on with this one!(Apologies to Barack) |
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 10/23/2008 : 00:41:54 [Permalink]
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Kil.....
Harsh. Yes. So? |
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
2437 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2008 : 00:44:17 [Permalink]
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Dave.....
| You do remember that skeptic griggsy is an avowed schizophrenic, don't you? |
Nope. Wasn't present, no memory of anything. Don't doubt a word of what you're saying, tho'! |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
2437 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2008 : 16:14:49 [Permalink]
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Dave.....
Kil's girlfriend would be far better qualified than I to comment, as I have never formally practiced the discipline in which I hold a doctorate, but back in antedeluvian times, schizophrenia in all of it's manifold manifestations, seldom produced incomprehensible speech or writing.
He, she, it must be certifiable for an asylum.
The guy/girl is a nutcase, that's for sure! |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2008 : 17:03:51 [Permalink]
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Well, doctor Buck, I am admittedly completely unqualified to argue that a schizophrenic would act in any particular manner at all. However, skeptic griggsy's statements (at the end of the post you replied to) that she is schizotypal and depressed seem clearly comprehensible (I stand corrected by Kil that schizotypal and schizophrenic are not synonyms). It is, in my utterly amateur opinion, not just "a tad harsh" but actually cruel to tell someone with an organic brain disorder (or two) to "get your fucking brains in order!!"
Sort of like a gym coach telling a kid with a broken leg to walk it off.
Perhaps the fact that you did not formally practice the discipline in which you hold a doctorate is a very, very good thing for the certifiable nutcases who were thus not your patients. |
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froydnslp
New Member
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Posted - 10/23/2008 : 17:59:38 [Permalink]
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Hi all.
Schizophrenia can manifest with "incomprehensible speech or writing." Schizophrenia is widely considered a physiological condition that is brought out by a life stressor. Schizotypal Personality is not considered an organic condition in the same way that schizophrenia is. It is considered a personality disorder, as far as I have experienced. It has little to do with disorderly brains. It does not necessarily manifest with "incomprehensivle speech or writing."
Since there seems to be a lot of confusion and since Griggsy is not shy about mentioning his(look at his posts on Skeptic Society. There is a lovely picture) schizotypal existence, I would suggest instead of making suppositions, googling schizotypal personality disorder, or whatever, we just ask Griggsy.
Griggsy, how does schizotypal manifest in your life? Is it similar to schizophrenia?
Griggsy, how come you write big, long posts that seem very interesting, but are hard to read because of the lack of paragraphs? Is that just your writing style? Or does it have to do with the schizotypal thing?
 Just put this here because I thought it was cool and I wanted a picture. Doesn't mean anything. I'm the one with the fish. Kil is the other one. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2008 : 19:59:39 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by froydnslp
...(look at his posts on Skeptic Society. There is a lovely picture)... |
The clues I got from long-ago emails said "woman." Go figure.
As for the rest, I'm not at all confused. I may have been wrong about which disorder griggsy's got, and I may have been wrong about it being organic, but my point has been about nothing more than bngbuck being a heartless jerk, for which all the other stuff is irrelevant, including griggsy's writing style.
The only thing that is relevant is that griggsy said, plainly, that he's got mental troubles, but bngbuck flew off the handle at what amounts to little more than poor textual narrative skills, and told the guy to repair himself or else go masturbate instead of wasting bngbuck's precious time.
The fact that bngbuck just paraded around his doctorate in a relevant field and has been unapologetic just makes his massive insensitivity all the more appalling. |
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skeptic griggsy
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 02/02/2009 : 09:40:44 [Permalink]
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froydnshp, I blame some of my writing on my defective cortex. I now make paragraphs. Unlike other schizotypals, I abjure both the supernatural and the paranormal and such idiocy as alien abductions that they so embrace.
Double depression is so depressing. Your happy depressive.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/02/2009 : 17:31:58 [Permalink]
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Existence may or may not be a very approachable subject, but I don't think it can be considered philosophically unimportant. It certainly merits discussion by skeptics.
I appreciate your willingness to discuss your mental condition, Griggsy. That takes some cajones. Most of us, even here, would rather skip past such self-exposition.
I'm a near-total ignoramus on mental disorders, even my own stroke-induced problems with concentration and the various neuroses I have that apparently try to compensate for that.
So I will approach this only from a writing viewpoint. When writing posts here, I often write huge paragraphs of baffledeegook. I then preview them an notice how nasty they look. I go through the big paragraphs and look for logical breaks, adding two line feeds wherever I find them. If there are no such logical breaks, I break up the mess into smaller paragraphs anyway.
Huge blocks of text are very, very difficult to read. They make me angry. Thank you for adopting paragraphs, Griggsy.
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skeptic griggsy
Skeptic Friend
USA
77 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2009 : 01:41:56 [Permalink]
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Gottried Wilhelm Leibniz's big blunder is his question why is there something rather than nothing? For there to be nothing, then God would be rquired.
Double depression is so depressing! I also have been busy elsewhere and I had to get a new dish. |
Fr. Griggs rests in his Socratic ignorance and humble naturalism. Logic is the bane of theists.Religion is mythinformation. Reason saves, not a dead Galilean fanatic. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2009 : 05:12:28 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by skeptic griggsy
Gottried Wilhelm Leibniz's big blunder is his question why is there something rather than nothing? For there to be nothing, then God would be rquired.
Double depression is so depressing! I also have been busy elsewhere and I had to get a new dish.
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Pardon the brief OT, but... Because I was contemplating delivering a real zinger here the other day in one of these fora, I was looking up the term, "passive-aggressive" in Wikipedia. But it turned out that the term didn't properly describe what I was looking for. Worse yet (ack!) it did describe my own coping mechanisms to a tee. Self-knowledge can be a brutally pitiless thing.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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| Edited by - HalfMooner on 02/27/2009 05:17:31 |
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