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Dude
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Posted - 03/27/2007 :  21:44:27  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://space.com/scienceastronomy/070327_saturn_hex.html

Interesting.

I lack enough knowledge to even venture a guess for what could cause this. But it is definitely interesting.




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HalfMooner
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Posted - 03/27/2007 :  21:55:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How about this: Nature abhors a straight line, but goes gaga over hexagons?


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Michael Mozina
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Posted - 03/27/2007 :  22:27:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Michael Mozina's Homepage Send Michael Mozina a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

http://space.com/scienceastronomy/070327_saturn_hex.html

Interesting.

I lack enough knowledge to even venture a guess for what could cause this. But it is definitely interesting.




As it it wasn't weird enough it had an "eyeball" at the other pole.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/061109_monster_storm.html

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filthy
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Posted - 03/28/2007 :  03:19:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HalfMooner

How about this: Nature abhors a straight line, but goes gaga over hexagons?



You got that right!
quote:
Hexagons are everywhere!. Everywhere you can find a bunch of homogeneous objects that is. Whether we look into beehives, man-made devices, living tissues or even atoms we can find surprising examples of a characteristic hexagonal pattern. We call it hexagonal close packing and it is in fact most effective to pack the largest number of objects in a minimum space. Let us see some examples.
So just the formation being hexagonal isn't all that noteworthy. Why it's hexagonal is the real question.

I, like Dude, haven't the faintest idea....




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HalfMooner
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Posted - 03/28/2007 :  05:16:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

quote:
Originally posted by HalfMooner

How about this: Nature abhors a straight line, but goes gaga over hexagons?



You got that right!
quote:
Hexagons are everywhere!. Everywhere you can find a bunch of homogeneous objects that is. Whether we look into beehives, man-made devices, living tissues or even atoms we can find surprising examples of a characteristic hexagonal pattern. We call it hexagonal close packing and it is in fact most effective to pack the largest number of objects in a minimum space. Let us see some examples.
So just the formation being hexagonal isn't all that noteworthy. Why it's hexagonal is the real question.

I, like Dude, haven't the faintest idea....





Neither do I. It's not as though that polar hexagon is visibly being crowded by other hexagons, so the hexagonal packing thing probably doesn't apply in this case.

That ignorance won't prevent me from making an unqualified wild guess, though.

My guess is that there are some sort of weather patterns, huge cyclonic storms or whatever, at circumpolar latitudes, but that these don't create enough contrast to be visible.

If this is correct, here would be six such storms, evenly spaced, east-west around Saturn at the same latitude, with this whole system being duplicated around the opposite pole. For some topographical reason, six of these circumpolar cyclones are more stable than any other number. Each unseen cyclone would be the approximate size of the polar hexagon. Pressing against the polar feature (an upwelling, like in arctic seas?), these form straight-lined borders, somewhat like what one gets when bubbles are connected. Maybe?


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Edited by - HalfMooner on 03/28/2007 05:21:44
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 03/28/2007 :  09:33:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pfft, this is nothing. Not nearly as amazing as the concentic circles which dominate the planet.

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TG
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Posted - 03/28/2007 :  11:01:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send TG a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My guess, unencumbered by any actual facts ("Facts .. pfft, you can prove anything with facts" - H. Simpson), is that it's a standing wave. However, I slept through fluid dynamics, so I may have missed something.
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Dude
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Posted - 03/28/2007 :  20:16:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe some effect of Saturn's magnetic field?


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pleco
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Posted - 03/28/2007 :  22:11:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
god did it

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