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HalfMooner
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Posted - 03/28/2007 :  16:41:14  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
According to a study mentioned in this article, after the dinosaurs died off, only a few now-extinct lines of mammals filled some of their ecological niches. Ancestors of modern mammals did not. Those mammals that did, went extinct. Interesting study, which contradicts the standard assumption (and common-sense notion) that mammals rushed en mass to fill out applications for job vacancies.


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Edited by - HalfMooner on 03/28/2007 16:48:53

filthy
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Posted - 03/28/2007 :  17:48:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And here I thought that they'd thrown a global party with barbequed dinosaur as the main course....

A very interesting article and one that requires thought. Thanks...




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Posted - 03/29/2007 :  05:42:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well the life span of most creatures is only 10 MY so its not a surprise that the land creatures would go extinct, it is the way of things.

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Kil
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Posted - 03/29/2007 :  08:47:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To answer the question:

Maybe when the dinos died out most of the mammals, realizing that they were not food anymore, bought hammocks and laid around drinking beer and generally took to hanging out and sharing stories about how bad things had been for them. Not much evolution took place at that time because the mammals were busy doing nothing.

Lacking motivation most of them didn't do a thing until the planet got cold again. Of course, by then, they had become so lazy that most of them died out waiting for the bad weather to let up.

The few that survived to speciate were Type A personalities, as mammals go, and up until the change in the weather, they were just annoying to those mammals happy to reminisce about the old days. The old thinkers had them making their hammocks and kept them busy doing menial tasks because they couldn't stand the constant nagging.

And so it went…

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Vegeta
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Posted - 03/29/2007 :  09:16:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Vegeta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Well the life span of most creatures is only 10 MY so its not a surprise that the land creatures would go extinct, it is the way of things.


I think the point, if I got it correctly, is that the mammals who did fill the dino's void not only went extinct, but also were evolutionary dead ends.

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Edited by - Vegeta on 03/29/2007 09:17:54
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 03/29/2007 :  09:58:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I felt the conclusions they reached were a stretch considering so very little is known about environmental factors in the few million years after the exticntion event(s).


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Vegeta
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Posted - 03/29/2007 :  10:02:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Vegeta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Perhaps... I'd like to see these trees they made.

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 03/29/2007 :  13:22:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kil

To answer the question:

Maybe when the dinos died out most of the mammals, realizing that they were not food anymore, bought hammocks and laid around drinking beer and generally took to hanging out and sharing stories about how bad things had been for them. Not much evolution took place at that time because the mammals were busy doing nothing.

Lacking motivation most of them didn't do a thing until the planet got cold again. Of course, by then, they had become so lazy that most of them died out waiting for the bad weather to let up.

The few that survived to speciate were Type A personalities, as mammals go, and up until the change in the weather, they were just annoying to those mammals happy to reminisce about the old days. The old thinkers had them making their hammocks and kept them busy doing menial tasks because they couldn't stand the constant nagging.

And so it went…


You know, that all just has the ring of truth to it.


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H. Humbert
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Posted - 03/29/2007 :  14:52:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vegeta

Perhaps... I'd like to see these trees they made.

Here are a few.


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