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The end of the world is anything but entertainment to the people I have at the table with me, Tim LaHaye, Jerry Jenkins, authors of the popular "Left Behind" books and from Washington, author Joel Rosenberg.

Let me start with -- with Tim and Jerry. Playing on fears or a good thing?

JENKINS: Well, we get asked that question a lot. Is it fair to use fear to get somebody to agree with your side? And I always say, I think fear is not a bad motivator if there`s something to be afraid of.

My wife and I raised three sons, and I scared them out of playing in the street. I scared them out of playing near the charcoal grill. I scared them out of using tools on the electrical outlets in the house because there was something to be afraid of.

And our feeling is we want people to be ready to go when the end comes. And they don`t have to agree. They can scoff and laugh. But the fact is, if it`s scary, it`s because there`s something to be scared of.

BECK: I think there`s a difference between "Jericho", and I like "Jericho". You know, we watch it from time to time. There`s a difference between that and, let`s say, your books, because your books are entertainment. But it is very, very clear that this is the message, and I`m trying to -- the secret is in the footnotes.

You know, here`s where you can find the actual information where shows like "Jericho" to me are just a reflection of the collective gut. Wouldn`t we have an alarm in us that would say, "Gang, something bad is about to come"?

LAHAYE: We think that`s one of the things that has made these books resonate with the people, because they`ve had this general of how the end of the age will come about. And what we`ve done is written it into fiction and yet, it`s based on the Bible.

I learned something from the author of "Roots". Years ago, he called his fiction "faction". Well, what we`re doing is we`re putting prophecy in through the vehicle of fiction. And it grabs the minds of people and has driven many people back to the Book of Revelation and other books in the Bible to read, and then they`re surprised: "Oh, it really says that."

BECK: Joel, have you always been a guy who has been on this track? I mean, you used to be -- you worked for Benjamin Netanyahu, if I`m not mistaken.

ROSENBERG: Right.

BECK: What -- what was it that started bringing your alarms?

ROSENBERG: Well, I sort of lived a little schizophrenic life, because professionally, I`ve been working for former Israeli prime ministers and deputy prime ministers, American political leaders.

But personally, I`m an evangelical Christian from an orthodox Jewish heritage. My family actually escaped out of Russia around 1907 when the czar was trying to wipe out of the all the Jews.

So personally I have had a fascination with what do the Bible prophecies say about the coming of Jesus. And where does Russia fit in? Where does Israel fit in? Where does Iran and these Middle Eastern countries fit in?

I met Dr. LaHaye in the early 1990s when the Soviet Union was collapsing. My wife worked with his wife. And we started chatting about these things. But he gave me this book, the coming peace in the Middle East. I think it`s out of print now.

But it walks through the Ezekiel 38 scenario, this war of Gog and Magog, where Russia and Iran team up to try to attack Israel. And honestly, at the time I thought, you know, I don`t see Russia ever being a threat to Israel. It`s collapsing. A million Jews are pouring out.

But then I`m on a flight from Washington to New York City in the year 2000. And I`m with Nat Karanski, the former Israeli deputy prime minister, and he tells me about a secret meeting he had with Vladimir Putin talking to him about his prime minister`s concerns about giving Russia might give nuclear technology and weaponry to Iran?

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Glenn Beck is just another scumbag with a motormouth, we all know that. But now he's giving such creatures as LeHay a venue to spout their lunacy?

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