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pleco
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Posted - 05/10/2007 :  15:50:06  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
GREENBELT, Md. - NASA will hold a media teleconference at 1 p.m. EDT on May 15 to discuss the strongest evidence to date that dark matter exists. This evidence was found in a ghostly ring of dark matter in the cluster CL0024+17, discovered using NASA's Hubble Space Telescope. The ring is the first detection of dark matter with a unique structure different from the distribution of both the galaxies and the hot gas in the cluster. The discovery will be featured in the June 20 issue of the Astrophysical Journal.


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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 05/10/2007 :  16:17:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They've got it all wrong, pleco. Dark matter is metaphysics, and the problems found in galactic rotation as predicted by Newtonian physics can all be explained if we posit that stars have an iron surface. I assure you that the people appearing in this media teleconference won't mention Alfven, meaning that their understanding of the universe is wrong and not worth considering. Sheesh!
Edited by - Cuneiformist on 05/10/2007 16:18:05
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 05/10/2007 :  17:12:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dark matter is indeed metaphysics, but you've got the rest all wrong, Cune. The false assumption of dark matter is required to balance out the equations of the godless Newtonian physics which has been ham-stringing our understanding of the universe ever since epicycles were so foolishly abandoned.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Vegeta
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Posted - 05/10/2007 :  17:38:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Vegeta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How can you see it through a telescope? I thought the whole deal with dark matter was that you can't see it, only see its effects

What are you looking at? Haven't you ever seen a pink shirt before?

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 05/10/2007 :  17:51:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The delay in releasing the images is due to unexpected technical glitches at the Hollywood CGI studio where they are being produced.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 05/10/2007 :  18:01:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Vegeta

How can you see it through a telescope? I thought the whole deal with dark matter was that you can't see it, only see its effects
Vegeta, it's a complex answer that involves indirect observation. There are some threads here where it's discussed, but it will take me some time to find them. The point is that the data suggest that-- based on a correct understanding of gravity-- matter not otherwise visible exists and nevertheless acts on things as ordinary matter on things like light and so on.
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Vegeta
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Posted - 05/10/2007 :  18:07:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Vegeta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
right so they've basically observed something invisible acting on something else and they're going to extrapolate some kind of false colour image from the data

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Dude
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Posted - 05/10/2007 :  18:41:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
right so they've basically observed something invisible acting on something else and they're going to extrapolate some kind of false colour image from the data


I doubt that is whats going on.

Why don't we wait for Tuesday and find out?


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beskeptigal
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Posted - 05/10/2007 :  19:00:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The basics: The Nature of Dark Matter, for anyone interested.


Edited by - beskeptigal on 05/10/2007 19:00:46
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  06:17:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If the pictures come out looking like the Hand of God, I'm no longer going to fly with NASA.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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pleco
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Posted - 05/15/2007 :  11:03:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote


Nope, no god(s) here...

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The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart.
Edited by - pleco on 05/15/2007 11:04:08
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 05/15/2007 :  11:14:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by pleco



Nope, no god(s) here...

Link to Bad Astronomy Aritcle
I see Russell's Teapot!


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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